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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: brityank

Innocent.


161 posted on 09/05/2007 4:49:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Maximus of Texas

Its unacceptable to think there isnt a cellphone camera within distance to get the 1 pic we all want to see.


162 posted on 09/05/2007 5:04:01 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: ArrogantBustard
Just remember the floor tile principle.

Please explain.
163 posted on 09/05/2007 6:57:13 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: subterfuge

You didn’t offer an invitation to them to membership in the mile high club, did ya ;) sarc....


164 posted on 09/05/2007 9:22:29 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Schwaeky

Yor funnie...not with Mom around! (she was with her “boyfriend”).


165 posted on 09/06/2007 7:38:37 AM PDT by subterfuge (It's GREAT, to be, a Florida Gator!)
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Good for Southwest. This HOOTER’s waitress wants the public to believe that she is a lady’s etiquette school graduate. This woman is addicted to exposure and now wants some of it on TV, as well as some quick cash. When the 23 year old appeared on video she was too quick to pull down her T-shirt and so prompt to sit with her back OH SO STRAIGHT & hands properly folded on her lap. Now really, who is going to sit like that for the whole flight? She was probably wearing the small green cropped top (in no case resembling Mary Ann in Gilligan’s Island) with the scanky skirt and no long white T-shirt, maybe panties maybe not. If she goes to court can she swear that she was sitting in that manner the whole way through, wearing exactly the same garments and in the same fashion (white t-shirt pulled all the way down, as far down as it can go)? B.S.!

I believe she was exposing or at least close to showing anyone (of all ages who has the gift of sight) her pubic area whether Brazilian waxed or not. One thing is to dress sensually, interesting, sexy and provocative ( like Samantha Jones in Sex in the City) it’s another to be scanky & vulgar. Now we all are forced to deal with vulgarity in public but why should the paying passengers have to.

Oh, poor Ho and her momma are offended. Have they ever thought how many people might have been offended with Kyla’s vulgarity and both mother & daughter’s attitude? But with a mother like that it’s no wonder why the 23 year old has chosen to work where she does. In any case Kyla is free to continue to expose herself at Hooters, in public, on her web page, her momma’s home or any other job she has. Places where she can show boobs, pubic area, any other body parts, traits, costumes, skills, or positions all of this without dealing with any lecture or feeling humiliated for doing it.


166 posted on 09/08/2007 4:15:15 AM PDT by sole2soul
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To: sole2soul
Just got an email from our daughter ~ this is the same Kyla from her graduating class in Coronado HS!

I'm LMAO at the sympathetic comments on this thread.

Your post is the only one even CLOSE to the truth about Kyla and her mother, believe me.
That demure photo of her is quite an act! LOL
You are absolutely right about her being "addicted to exposure."
I'm sure everyone who knew her is getting a HUGE laugh.

This comment by dear ol' mom is really a gem.
“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

The apple doesn't fall far from the skanky tree.

167 posted on 09/11/2007 11:42:01 AM PDT by b9 ("Fred... doesn't suffer fools and he has the guts and the microphone to say what I think" ~ Samwise)
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