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Churches May Get Pressure on Gay Tenets
New York Sun ^ | September 5, 2007 | JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 09/05/2007 7:01:34 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9
Where is separation of church and state now?
21 posted on 09/05/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: joebuck
Hummmm, the answer for Christians would be all those tenets which appear between Chapter 1 of Genesis and Chapter 22 of Revelation.

And that's the narrow version, some of us would include all of the canons and doctrinal pronouncements of the Ecumenical Councils (a bit more stuff there for the Latins than for us Orthodox since they claim to have had a bunch on their own) and all local councils whose validity has been received throughout the Church (for us Orthodox, or by the Pope of Rome for the Latins).

22 posted on 09/05/2007 8:17:57 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Old_Mil
Separating the wheat from the chaff, eh?
23 posted on 09/05/2007 8:18:08 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: mollynme

Yep...if you read the verses of the lampstands of revelation, there’s no guarantee that passage of such a law isnt actually God’s will.


24 posted on 09/05/2007 8:19:40 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: wastedyears

The camel’s nose in the tent.


25 posted on 09/05/2007 8:19:58 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: presidio9

They shouldn’t pass this bill even if it has an exemption for religious institutions. Why should a sex perversion be a “civil rights” category?

Even with a religious exemption, the bill is dangerous for churches. Many religious schools don’t require all students to belong to the faith of the sponsoring institution. The federal bureaucracy will see that as “proof” that church doctrine isn’t “relevant” to their school system and force them to hire some guy who likes to wear dresses and talks incessantly about his “boyfriend”.

The anarcho-tyranny continues to grow stronger. I’m hopeful that President Bush will veto this abomination if it passes, but we’re one Democrat president away from having this garbage imposed on us.


26 posted on 09/05/2007 8:23:50 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: presidio9

Where are all of the “There must be separation of church and state” ACLU-types now????? ~~~~crickets~~~~


27 posted on 09/05/2007 8:24:10 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: The_Reader_David; joebuck

Bible; Ecumenical Councils (21 of them); the whole Ordinary Magisterium including encyclicals and catechisms (properly interpreted) -— whew -— and everything learned at one’s mother’s knee, including the part about finishing what’s on one’s plate on account of the starving Armenians.


28 posted on 09/05/2007 8:27:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Do the right thing.)
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To: theBuckwheat
The King James version has "dogs." The Greek text has kynes, and the Latin Vulgate has canes, both the regular word for "dogs."
29 posted on 09/05/2007 8:31:04 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: joebuck

Ten years ago, a judge in Boca Raton, Florida ordered all Stars of David and Crosses removed from the municipal cemeteries because he ruled that those symbols were not tenets of the faiths.


30 posted on 09/05/2007 10:14:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: presidio9

What happened to all the screaming about “separation of Church and State?” THIS sort of meddling is what the Founding Fathers had in mind, not keeping God our of schools.


31 posted on 09/05/2007 10:14:37 AM PDT by madison10
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To: LiteKeeper

A Truro, MA Fireman was fired for signing the Marriage Amendment Petition at his church. So the real question is will the Fed, State and Municipal governments continue to hire Christians, Jews and Muslims?


32 posted on 09/05/2007 10:17:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: joebuck
""groups would have to declare "which of its religious tenets are significant"

Blatantly unconstitutional...

33 posted on 09/05/2007 10:44:53 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....

Exactly! Don't know who your Congresscritter is down there on the South Side, but mine's Manzullo. And he might be at an Illinois Republican meeting in Rockford on the 10th. I'll be there, and if he is, he'll hear about this.

34 posted on 09/05/2007 10:48:59 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: bcsco

Is Manzullo on our side, or is he a typical Illinois RINO?


35 posted on 09/05/2007 10:52:36 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82
Is Manzullo on our side, or is he a typical Illinois RINO?

He was completely against the Shamnesty bill. I have that in writing. I've not had any substantive with him in the years he's been in office. And I'm no RINO.

36 posted on 09/05/2007 10:58:23 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: bcsco

Mine is Jesse Jackson, Jr., but who knows, it might be worth the effort to contact him about this.

It’s interesting how the “establishment clause” is constantly being trotted out to keep religious organizations and even religious individuals from doing certain things, but on issues that it plainly addresses—like this one—it’s conveniently forgotten.


37 posted on 09/05/2007 11:02:55 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: presidio9

Gay ‘tenets’? Since when did ‘Gay’ become a ‘faith’?


38 posted on 09/05/2007 11:03:55 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: presidio9

Since when did it become illegal to discriminate against a behavior?


39 posted on 09/05/2007 11:05:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Little Ray

Since when did it become illegal to discriminate against a behavior?


Since homo perversion was defined as something else. Depends what is is. Even many here on FR do not see homo perversion as a behavior


40 posted on 09/05/2007 11:38:10 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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