Posted on 09/03/2007 11:07:38 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
Every time John Remore steps up to his workstation to form a piece of sheet metal, he brings an intangible asset to the job: 42 years of experience, dating to lessons from his father.
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Dude, I am 44, and I have to beat them off with a stick.
Can’t stand the company, don’t want to work for them. Even though I grew up in a company facility.
But they LOVE putting yonger folks (younger than me) in their executive program, and software systems engineers are their hottest need.
hell, it’s like that at our family thanksgiving dinner.
someone has to die before you get “promoted”
from the basement card table to the upstairs dinner table.
keep the faith...
.>>Dean of Engineering of a local University and his wife — both educated with higher degrees — were uncomfortable with the word “profit”
will it be a dirty word when they want to sell their house and retire? maybe they should sell it for what they bought it then they won’t have to dirty their hands with any profit. maybe they could give the house away and go live in a cave.
i wonder if they have a 401k?
Your difficulty is finding a good young person is probably a function of a lack of supply. Not very many young folks are aiming to head into that field, so no doubt you're left with those who can't find anything else.
I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. Also, this comment isn't meant to insult your profession; I don't know why more young folks don't aspire to that sort of work.
Just wondering...how many seats are at the upstairs table? If it's a four-seater, you may not want to get there too quickly. ;-)
I’m afraid that that is the standard for the IT profession. That is why I never encourage young folks to major in IT, and I privately roll my eyes when they tell me how much money they are going to make there just out of school. They may make big bucks, but they will be extraneous dead wood when the next clss comes along.
If your needing to support your family includes your wishing and being grateful as your parents generation dies off,,you have a very big personal problem. And a mighty small heart.
I agree. One of the best mechanical engineers I know is over 75 years old and could still outwork the younger crowd.
I’m afraid it is because the bulk of our profession has chosen to outsource those jobs to Asia. Now we are an outsource company too — we do small to mid sized jobs for OEMs. But, when their product hits big — they all send the work overseas. Consequently, we stay small. But, I can’t supply the workers either. We are constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel, hoping to find a gem who can match our older workers and become the next generation of leads.
What else can you do as "Companies Try to Retain Older Workers"?
As the top levels companies and government gets packed with oldsters who won't retire, the only advancement occurs when they die.
I didn't invent this demographic and economic catastrophe....
The younger crowd being anyone under 75?
So what happens when he croaks and didn't pass on any skills or knowledge?
Try to find a good circuit board designer that can design without a computer. Almost impossible. I was a design manager and even when I hired senior designers, I would retrain them to our way of doing things. 20 years ago, I had designers making 60K a year. By the time we got done with them they could get a job any place in the country.
He did pass on his skills. He trained me for seven years. He pushed me to the limit in design and I advanced faster than others in the same profession. He put me in my first management position and I trained the best designers in the country. Most older people I have worked with have a much better work ethic.
Not at all. They put their house up for sale at an astronomical price and fled the state to build again in MO, where land is cheaper.Their house was NOT marketable at the price they asked (IMO) but, they lucked out, got their price and got away with the scam.
My husband served on this man's Industrial Relations Committee at the University and the Dean was always poor mouthing and getting people to kick in for his trips and for supporting various educational programs and awards. When we looked at his whole departmental package (when the committee hired his replacement) we wondered why we ever gave him anything. My husband was always funneling money to him on the side. He also promptly forgot we (and everybody else) after he retired. Didn't know us any more.
So you are in your mid-late 50's? Are you passing those skills and knowledge on?
I am in my late 60’s now. Have my own company and doing fairly well. I work with younger people and teach them as much as I possibly can.
That's good. How much younger are the guys you train?
dinosaurs rule.
I've seen kids try and drill through aluminum plates with the drill in reverse and no clue why it won't work !
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