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North Korea coming off US terror list (according to North Korea)
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Posted on 09/03/2007 7:26:21 AM PDT by maquiladora

SEOUL (AFP) — North Korea said Monday that the United States has decided to remove it from a list of states sponsoring terrorism -- a crucial step towards the normalisation of relations between the two countries.

The US decision came at a weekend meeting between the chief nuclear negotiators of the two countries in Geneva, a foreign ministry spokesman told the official Korean Central News Agency.

"Both sides discussed the issue of taking practical measures to neutralise the existing nuclear facilities in the DPRK (North Korea) within this year and agreed on them," the spokesman said.

"In return for this the US decided to take such political and economic measures for compensation as delisting the DPRK as a terrorism sponsor and lifting all sanctions that have been applied according to the Trading with the Enemy Act," he said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; axisofevil; clintonian; concessions; hoodwinked; kimjonilwon; korea; lameduckweakness; legacy; naive; nknukes; northkorea; retreat
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1 posted on 09/03/2007 7:26:26 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

What about the counterfeiting?


2 posted on 09/03/2007 7:28:21 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: maquiladora

That leaves Iran...


3 posted on 09/03/2007 7:28:29 AM PDT by traumer
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To: maquiladora

Ridiculous.

Let’s get out of Korea.


4 posted on 09/03/2007 7:29:30 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Makes me at least ask, what’re we doing there ?


5 posted on 09/03/2007 7:31:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: maquiladora
Sorry, but this is a sham IMHO. N. Korea already has its nuclear weapons. I do not believe they will completely close down their "program", but will make some very visible public displays and laugh all the way to the bank...while they continue supplying our enemies.

I believe that foggy bottom is just that...foggy.

If, on the other hand, we in fact threatened them into real action...then I would wait at least a year or longer and verify that everything that we have DEMANDED has been accomplished before making a single economic move like this.

6 posted on 09/03/2007 7:31:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: maquiladora

*slaps* Forehead.. What next, granting them “most favored trading” status?


7 posted on 09/03/2007 7:31:30 AM PDT by cardinal4 (http://artoriuscastus.blogspot.com/)
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To: maquiladora
"I sowee! I wuv America!"

"Where Maddie? I wuv Maddie wong time!"

8 posted on 09/03/2007 7:33:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: maquiladora
The AFP isn't recording this event correctly (and, from what I'm seeing, most other news sources are picking up the false tagline.)

Here is another article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/03/world/asia/03nkorea.html

If the North Koreans meet the schedule and disable their equipment, it would be a major victory for the Bush administration, at a time when it is eager to claim progress on some diplomatic front to offset its problems in Iraq. Whether to offer the North rewards, including oil and, eventually, removal from the list of state sponsors of terrorism and diplomatic recognition, has been the subject of a six-year struggle within the Bush administration.

We didn't remove them from the terror list, we threw a carrot out there to see if they take it. Nothing in this says we actually pulled them off the list nor will actually pull them off the list even if they meet these demands.

9 posted on 09/03/2007 7:36:18 AM PDT by mnehring (If there's one thing that makes me sick it's when someone tries to hide behind politics- Joey Ramone)
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"In return for this the US decided to take such political and economic measures for compensation as delisting the DPRK as a terrorism sponsor and lifting all sanctions that have been applied according to the Trading with the Enemy Act," he said. There was no immediate confirmation from the United States.

What has substantially changed to warrant this?
10 posted on 09/03/2007 7:37:08 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: maquiladora

Ummm... I think the crucial words here are “North Korea said...”. Seems to me those words are generally followed by fiction.


11 posted on 09/03/2007 7:37:49 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: kinoxi
Nothing, the article is incorrect.. this statement is coming from 'North Korea's' view, but the other articles (like I posted above) say If NK does xx & x, we may consider reducing sanctions.. we threw them a carrot, the media is misreporting that carrot as being a buffet.
12 posted on 09/03/2007 7:39:28 AM PDT by mnehring (If there's one thing that makes me sick it's when someone tries to hide behind politics- Joey Ramone)
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To: Humble Servant

Think back to Madeline Albright arguing ridiculously that Sadaam was contained. If Condi pulls this off and ends the Korean war with a peace treaty, they will have to give her the Noble peace price, and that will really smart.


13 posted on 09/03/2007 7:41:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: cardinal4
It has already leaked out from the Administration that their plan is for a sub-level summit in Pyongyang to normalize relations, and then the cream on the cake will be signing of a Peace Treaty and a visit by Condi to Pyongyang by 2008 (early or mid).

You read it here on FR.

The State Department is in complete control on this one.

The Bush Administration has been completely routed.

14 posted on 09/03/2007 7:41:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: kinoxi

Japanese TV (TV Tokyo) on live TV just about six minutes ago, reported that indeed the US has promised and agreed to remove the D.P.R.K. from the List of State Sponsors of Terrorism. The Japanese was clear and emphatic that this has been promised and will now be done.


15 posted on 09/03/2007 7:45:57 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: traumer
That leaves Iran...

No, it leaves Sudan, Syria, Iran, and Cuba

16 posted on 09/03/2007 7:46:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The State Department is in complete control on this one. The Bush Administration has been completely routed.

BS. The buck stops at the WH. This is more of a political decision than a bureaucratic one. Bush wants this as part of his legacy. The idea that the State Department is an independent actor who can dictate policy to the WH is pure crap. It is the other way around.

17 posted on 09/03/2007 7:48:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That’s pretty sad that the Japanese MSM is also picking up on the false story that NK is spreading. It is pretty sad when the NYT has a more accurate article (posted in one of my previous posts above.)

We didn’t take them off the list, nor did we say we would. We simply said if they met all of our demands we may consider lifting some sanctions. It is NK that is spreading the BS that we took them off the list.

18 posted on 09/03/2007 7:50:56 AM PDT by mnehring (If there's one thing that makes me sick it's when someone tries to hide behind politics- Joey Ramone)
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To: kabar

Well, it looks like Maddie Halfbright was right all along.

All we needed to do is buy them a beer, or a scotch on the rocks, and shake hands, and then everything will be OK.

WTF is going on with this administration?


19 posted on 09/03/2007 7:54:48 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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WTF is going on with this administration?

Nothing, the article is based on NK's comments, not reality. We didn't lift any sanctions, we only threw a carrot out saying if they met all our demands we may consider lifting some sanctions..
I really wish people would do their own fact checking instead of taking any article at face value.

20 posted on 09/03/2007 7:57:08 AM PDT by mnehring (If there's one thing that makes me sick it's when someone tries to hide behind politics- Joey Ramone)
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