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Religion causes harm, says poll
Timesonline ^ | Sept. 2, 2007 | Richard Brooks

Posted on 09/02/2007 11:27:08 PM PDT by processing please hold

NEARLY half the British think that religion is harmful, according to a poll carried out by YouGov. Yet more than half also believe in God “or something”.

The YouGov poll commissioned by John Humphrys, the broadcaster and writer, found that 42% of the 2,200 people taking part considered religion had a harmful effect.

“One reason might be the publicity attracted by a handful of mad mullahs and their hate-filled rhetoric,” writes Humphrys in his new book, In God We Doubt, an extract of which appears in today’s Sunday Times News Review.

Only 16% of those polled called themselves atheists; 28% believed in God; 26% believed in “something” but were not sure what; and 9% regarded themselves as agnostics - like Humphrys himself, who had a religious upbringing in Wales but calls himself a “doubter”.

He writes: “Even though the dominant faith - by a massive margin – is Christianity, only 17% thought the influence of religion was beneficial. That is even fewer than those who claim that they believe in a personal God. And yet when we asked which of the main religions was ‘most effective’ in getting its message across, most thought it was Christianity. Only 10% cited Islam compared with 32% who said Christianity.”

In the survey 43% said they never prayed, 31% hardly prayed, and 10% prayed every night. “More than half of those who say they believe in a personal God cannot be bothered to pray to him every night,” writes Humphrys.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antichristian; atheists; bookreview; christophobia; europeanchristians; ingodwedoubt; johnhumphrys; liberalmedia; nonchristian; pc; politicalcorrectness; sadsituation; slantedmedia
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“One reason might be the publicity attracted by a handful of mad mullahs and their hate-filled rhetoric,” writes Humphrys in his new book, In God We Doubt, an extract of which appears in today’s Sunday Times News Review.

Why don't they just say islam causes harm.

1 posted on 09/02/2007 11:27:10 PM PDT by processing please hold
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Yet more than half also believe in God “or something”.

OMGOS
2 posted on 09/02/2007 11:35:26 PM PDT by kinoxi
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Just another religion bashing piece of crap in the western press. With Islam as pervasively evil as it is of COURSE people are going to say religion “causes harm.” If the question was different I’d bet they would not have seen an outcome that ALL religion was harmful. The evil of Islam is the chief problem of the day.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 11:37:47 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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If this is anywhere near accurate (and I have no reason to believe it isn’t) the Brits are in serious trouble. How far down they’ve came in the last 100 years. From the strongest country in the World down to where they are today.
If we can’t turn things around here, we’ll be joining them sooner than we might think.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 11:39:21 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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Yeah, the ‘or something’ caught my eye too.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 11:39:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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“One reason might be the publicity attracted by a handful of mad mullahs and their hate-filled rhetoric,”

That is a powerful reason. Other objections are from perverts who don't like the Judeo/Christian/Islamic objections to where the like to stick it.

6 posted on 09/02/2007 11:41:03 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I don’t believe Christianity can be used in the same breath as Islamic faith. At least Christianity came out the Dark Ages about 500 to 600 years ago. Islam is still in the 700’s and wants the rest of the world’s population to go back in time with them or kill us. I say we need to kill them before they try to kill us. Whether it be by preventative strikes or not, we need to do something soon.
7 posted on 09/02/2007 11:41:16 PM PDT by antiunion person (This is all Bush's fault.)
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The evil of Islam is the chief problem of the day.

Exactly my point. islam is giving religion a bad name.

Someday they'll wake up to the fact that religion and islam are two different things.

8 posted on 09/02/2007 11:41:34 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Wasn't it Britain who sent missionaries all over the world to preach the gospel and convert heathens? Maybe they should have missionaries sent to them this time around.

If we can’t turn things around here, we’ll be joining them sooner than we might think.

We're a lot more religious here than they are.

9 posted on 09/02/2007 11:44:48 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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And then you have their weak kneeded Generals bad mouthing our military and some of our leaders.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 11:49:05 PM PDT by ONEBYEONE
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That is a powerful reason. Other objections are from perverts who don't like the Judeo/Christian/Islamic objections to where the like to stick it.

I agree. Look at the thread on Ian McKellen, Gandolf the Gray on Lord of the rings. He admits to ripping out pages in the Bible on homosexuals. The pervert.

11 posted on 09/02/2007 11:50:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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I don’t believe Christianity can be used in the same breath as Islamic faith.

It can't. And that's the mistake they're making, hence my comment in post # 1.

I say we need to kill them before they try to kill us. Whether it be by preventative strikes or not, we need to do something soon.

I view islam as a death cult, not a religion.

12 posted on 09/02/2007 11:52:33 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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With all the negative stories involving Christianity in the news, it’s a small wonder why folks are turning away. The media loathes Christians. Public schools have declared it public enemy number one, while holding up the Koran and the Muslim faith as worthy of actuall study on school property.

You might just as well as if guns are bad. They’ve been demonized on the same scale. Kids can’t even mention the word guns or God in school today. The left is so entrenched that conservatives haven’t a prayer of cracking open the decision making process.


13 posted on 09/03/2007 12:21:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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“With all the negative stories involving Christianity in the news, it’s a small wonder why folks are turning away. The media loathes Christians. Public schools have declared it public enemy number one, while holding up the Koran and the Muslim faith as worthy of actuall study on school property.

You might just as well as if guns are bad. They’ve been demonized on the same scale. Kids can’t even mention the word guns or God in school today. The left is so entrenched that conservatives haven’t a prayer of cracking open the decision making process.”

I agree completely DoughtyOne, except with your last point. We ALWAYS have a prayer.


14 posted on 09/03/2007 12:24:06 AM PDT by Vanders9
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“Religion” often is bad. Personal faith is what moves mountains.


15 posted on 09/03/2007 12:24:37 AM PDT by Vanders9
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I wonder if the Left has infused the culture with the thinking that it is the nature of the Judeo-Christian religion that stirs up the Islamic juices. This blame game shifts the focus away from the evil of Islam and onto the Judeo-Christian alliance. The Left is very crafty in the way it has spun the Judeo-Christian alliance into an appearance of fault. By putting the focus on Judeo-Christianity, the Left can stigmatize it and let the culture do their job for them: Take the Judeo-Christian as a force in the culture out of influence. This is what it is doing. With the Judeo-Christian element out of the way, the Left thinks it can bring about an Utopian world that has no guilt in the indulgences of the human appitite. There will be no pleasure denied and no action subject to judgment. However, the Left fails to consider what happens when this philosophy is applied to government. As with the indulgence in pleasure, there will be no limits to what government will do to those under its rule. There will be no action subject to judgement. Fascism will be the way of government. The Utopian world without limits will fall like a house of cards. And with it will go the survival of the human race.


16 posted on 09/03/2007 12:28:51 AM PDT by jonrick46
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Yes, I agree. That was a poor choice of words, but I think you understand that conservatives don’t count much when it comes to making decisions in the public schools these days.


17 posted on 09/03/2007 12:30:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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Because that would be considered bigoted and intolerant.


18 posted on 09/03/2007 12:37:23 AM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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True. You still have the ultimate decision of voting with your feet.


19 posted on 09/03/2007 12:40:57 AM PDT by Vanders9
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Yet more than half also believe in God “or something”.

Does that mean the other half believe in nothing?

20 posted on 09/03/2007 12:41:09 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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