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(United Kingdom) Police Can Shoot Children With Stun Guns
Daily Mail ^ | 2nd September 2007 | STEPHEN WRIGHT

Posted on 09/02/2007 8:59:19 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: Shooter 2.5

‘What make and model and where can you use them and on what?’

Two double-barrelled 12 bore shotguns (1 side by side Gunmark Kestrel and an up and under Lanber Game) and my faithful old SMLE .303 rifle with a ten round magazine.

I use them for hunting, mainly grouse, pheasant and the occasional deer, mainly on private land, occasionally on common land. When I carry them in my land rover they must be in a locked box attached to the vehicle.


21 posted on 09/03/2007 7:24:36 AM PDT by britemp
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To: muawiyah; Horatio Gates
Drinking too much water poses a risk of death. So does a spray from a high pressure hose. That does not make a squirt gun a non-lethal weapon.

O.K. — the above was facetious (although true).

No weapon, including the Taser, should be over-used, or used carelessly.

Seriously now, consider the alternatives to the Taser:

1. Shoot the suspect with a gun — almost certainly lethal.

2. Pepper spray — sometimes (rarely) lethal — not as effective at stopping a determined violent criminal — could be fatal to the LEO, or to bystanders.

3. Fisticuffs, wrestling, or other bare-hand martial arts — places the LEO (and bystanders) in immediate danger — could be fatal to LEO or suspect — often not effective at subduing or capturing the suspect.

4. Billy club, bat, or similar weapon — could be fatal — high chance of brain injury — places LEO and bystanders in danger.

5. Ignore the situation — life and property of innocent people put at great risk. People want LEO to protect them & apprehend suspects with appropriate means. We also want to reduce risk to LEO. They (LEO) need a variety of tools to do their job safely and effectively. On balance, it seems to me that the Taser has a place in the LEO toolbox.

22 posted on 09/03/2007 9:55:44 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: britemp
Apparently, you retain the same rights and privileges as a person living in our more restrictive blue states.

Thank you for the reply.

23 posted on 09/03/2007 9:56:34 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: britemp

I thought their police didn’t use them is really what I mean.


24 posted on 09/03/2007 11:07:59 AM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Static electricity is 20,000 volts????

I didn’t know that.

Thanks for the tidbit.


25 posted on 09/03/2007 11:11:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Envision the “child” as 3 years old.


26 posted on 09/03/2007 4:12:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DogByte6RER

I dunno. For years I’ve been advocating issuing cattle prods to schoolteachers but nobody listens to me...


27 posted on 09/03/2007 4:16:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: muawiyah
“Envision the “child” as 3 years old.”

I’m seeing red herrings.

In this case “child” most likely refers to yobs 15 to 18 yrs. old. Some of them are pretty large — and they tend to travel in packs.

28 posted on 09/03/2007 4:22:53 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The article didn’t say so.


29 posted on 09/03/2007 4:25:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DogByte6RER

Children shouldn’t be playing with stun guns in the first place, but shooting them is probably an excessive reaction.


30 posted on 09/03/2007 4:25:48 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: muawiyah; Horatio Gates
When there’s a rash of marauding gangs of preschoolers terrorizing citizens in the streets; I’ll believe that the cops are considering Tasering 3 yr olds.
31 posted on 09/03/2007 4:29:24 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Never forget, the UK isn't the US. They do things different, and rather strangely, over there.

You really can't rule out their getting the idea to shoot babies ~ e.g. in their mother's arms to stop mom form picking pockets.

32 posted on 09/03/2007 4:30:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’ll agree that babies shouldn’t be Tasered. Do you agree that the cops should be allowed to Taser violent yobs?


33 posted on 09/03/2007 4:40:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Depends on what they mean by a “minor”. They do stuff pretty early in UK ~ old tradition from way down Souf’ ~


34 posted on 09/03/2007 4:44:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890684/posts ~ what a surprise. Here’s a woman whose newborn might be taken from her by the UK authorities. Should the cops be allowed to taser her while she holds the baby should she resist?


35 posted on 09/03/2007 4:46:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
If they’re old enough to pose a serious physical threat to the cops, or innocent bystanders — they’re old enough to receive the treatment.
36 posted on 09/03/2007 4:47:27 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Good to see you were answering #34 and not #35.

In general, cops shouldn't taser women holding babies.

In fact, it would be unwise to mislead the cops into thinking it was OK to taser the babies (minors) and not the mothers.

37 posted on 09/03/2007 4:50:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh sure, it’s all about risk management. If you do something enough eventually someone will get hurt no matter what they’re doing. Never a mention of the thousanda and thousands of of people who have been on the receiving end of the probes and lived to tell about it. How many times have you toasted your english muffin in the shower and gotten away with it?....8>)


38 posted on 09/04/2007 9:15:34 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: DogByte6RER
Don't taze me bro!
39 posted on 11/03/2007 7:14:55 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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