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One Girl Dead, One Injured After Falling In Arizona Mine Shaft
Fox news ^ | 2007-09-02 | National News

Posted on 09/02/2007 4:36:36 PM PDT by Issaquahking

One Girl Dead, One Injured After Falling In Arizona Mine Shaft, Two girls riding an all-terrain vehicle fell into a mine shaft, killing one while the other remained trapped overnight, authorities said Sunday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: accident; arizona; freedom; mine; rescue
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1 posted on 09/02/2007 4:36:37 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Issaquahking

When I was 9 I fell into a mime shaft but wasn’t sure how to ask for help.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 4:38:42 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Issaquahking

Poor kid. May she rest in peace.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 4:39:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Issaquahking

The 10-year-old girl was being treated for serious injuries.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 4:42:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Issaquahking

Seth Johnson, a neighbor of the girls and their family’s landlord, said the two were half-sisters and identified them as 13-year-old Rikki Howard and 10-year-old Casie Hicks.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6787113


5 posted on 09/02/2007 4:45:15 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Issaquahking

Unlike many stories where fault is nebulous, someone can be blamed here. Al Gore. He advised Bill Clinton to shut down the US Bureau of Mines that was involved in documenting and closing old and dangerous shafts and addits when the plug was pulled.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 4:46:01 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Issaquahking

There’s 10’s of thousands of open mineshafts all over the west.

Some of them go down for a thousand feet or more.

Folks oughta look where they’re going.


7 posted on 09/02/2007 4:46:09 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: kcvl
Hopefully makes a full recovery.

I hope America doesn't get crazy over the fact that the shft was not posted. yes it is a terrible accident, but we can't post everything that is hazardous. That is to say, life has risks, we have to accept that. Should I quit riding in cars because people die in wrecks everyday, and that I could be next?
8 posted on 09/02/2007 4:47:25 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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9 posted on 09/02/2007 4:49:49 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Issaquahking
Well an abandon mine that goes straight down ought to be at least minimally marked. Especially if it is on public property.
10 posted on 09/02/2007 4:51:43 PM PDT by DB
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After being born and raised in LA I went to live in a tiny copper mining town in Arizona after graduating from school. I worked on the White River Apache Reservation.

But one think that totally wigged me out was the hug holes that were left from some sort of mining in the area. Big enough for a moving van to drive into .... no barriers, nothing! You just walk right up to the edge. There is no way to see the bottom of the shaft. It just scared the living daylights out of me!!!

That, along with tarantulas, snakes, javalinas, gila monsters and bats ... and all sorts of weird bugs and beetles.


11 posted on 09/02/2007 4:51:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: NVDave

Thank you. I was talking about that on #11.


12 posted on 09/02/2007 4:52:46 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: DB

They are not maked at all.


13 posted on 09/02/2007 4:53:46 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Gondring

Was that going to be a picture of a collie, by any chance?


14 posted on 09/02/2007 4:54:58 PM PDT by RichInOC (ARF!)
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To: Issaquahking
is to say, life has risks, we have to accept that.

The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.    -- Tacitus


15 posted on 09/02/2007 4:55:07 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Marking hazards such as open mine shafts on public property is not a barrier to great and noble enterprises.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 5:01:03 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: jdm

Let’s see - should I hit the abuse button on your post, or just call you a jerk.

Let me think about it for a while.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 5:12:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: driftdiver; SpaceBar
Marking hazards such as open mine shafts on public property is not a barrier to great and noble enterprises.

Agreed. It should be the responsibility of mine operators. Where none or no related corporations exist, then the BoM should have responsibility for such. And SpaceBar has pointed out already that we should go after Algore.

However, the idea that all things must be safe is a dangerous path.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 5:21:49 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Issaquahking

Unfortunately, a lot of vertical shafts were covered with boards when they were abandoned. The wood rots, and is covered with a thick layer of dust, so you have no idea that it is there at all, then whoop!

I was out with a mine expert and we saw a horizontal shaft interesting enough to want to poke your head in and look around, though it was pitch black inside. But he skipped a rock inside, and after it bounced once there was silence. For a few seconds, then plink...plink...plink, as it fell down the vertical shaft perhaps 15 feet from the horizontal front entrance.

Even spelunkers are wise to avoid old mines. As the saying goes, “Any cave nature didn’t create, nature tries to destroy.” On top of which you have poisonous and explosive odorless gases, rotten timbers, rock falls, just roof rocks you can bash your head in with if you aren’t wearing a helmet, explosive nitroglycerin crystals from old leaky dynamite, animals and insects, and unexpected water and sometimes a lot of it all at once.


19 posted on 09/02/2007 5:22:08 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Issaquahking
....BUSH's Fault....well, someone had to say it.
20 posted on 09/02/2007 5:22:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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