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Antique Voyager Technology
Slashdot ^ | 9/02/2007 | kdawson

Posted on 09/02/2007 11:24:38 AM PDT by sionnsar

sea_stuart writes with a story from the Tidbinbilla space tracking station, outside Canberra, Australia. It is still communicating with the two Voyager spacecraft 30 years after they were launched and 18 years after Voyager 2 passed close by Neptune. Here's a little background on Voyager 1 and Voyager 2.

"The bank of computers that would look at home in black-and-white episodes of Doctor Who cannot be junked... [T]he 1970s hardware is now our world's only means of chatting with two robot pioneers exploring the solar system's outer limits. Today Voyager 1 is humanity's most remote object, 15.5 billion kilometers from the sun. Voyager 2 is 12.5 billion kilometers from it. Both continue beaming home reports, but now they are space-age antiques. 'The Voyager technology is so outmoded,' said Tidbinbilla's spokesman, Glen Nagle, 'we have had to maintain heritage equipment to talk to them.'"


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1 posted on 09/02/2007 11:24:40 AM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 09/02/2007 11:25:12 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Oh sure, no one can figure out a way to interface modern computers with the 1970’s technology on the spacecraft? You must be kidding me.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 11:30:25 AM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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To: whipitgood

I don’t think it’s a technology thing. I think it’s more of a cost thing. The point is not the hardware, but rather the software. The infrastructure is in place now, why spend millions of dollars upgrading it when the probes could stop sending data any day?

What’s more amazing is that we’re building spacecraft that can last as long as they are. Look at the Mars Exploration Rovers.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 11:33:31 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: sionnsar
That is because the ageing probes can only chat at a sluggish 32 bits a second, far too slow for modern computers.

Oh for God's sake. Give me ten minutes with a microcontroller and I'll hook it up for you. Whoever wrote this knows squat about computers.

5 posted on 09/02/2007 11:34:59 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: whipitgood
It may be that it's a whole lot easier to keep the old stuff running rather then develop new code on new platforms. The slow data rates shouldn't be a problem. But there are problems with the article:

Home computers were a distant dream. ... September 5, 1977

They were hardly a distant dream; my first issue of Byte magazine (Vol 1 No 1) had arrived two years earlier.

6 posted on 09/02/2007 11:36:39 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

This is total BS. The very reason they are still transmitting signals is the premise that ET will someday pick it up and investigate. Are they saying that ET needs 1970’s computers?


7 posted on 09/02/2007 11:41:16 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: sionnsar

Altair 8800 came out in 1975. Tandy, Apple, and Commodore released home computers in 1977. By 1977, there were probably thousands of kids playing with computers they got for Christmas.


8 posted on 09/02/2007 11:48:53 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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I don’t know why they even bother trying to upgrade the interface, when they know that in 200 years it’s going to be interfaced with that alien probe, and almost destroy the USS Enterprise.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 11:55:41 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: jim35

That was Voyager 6!


10 posted on 09/02/2007 11:57:14 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: jim35

“. . . and almost destroy the USS Enterprise.”

Not to mention Earth.


11 posted on 09/02/2007 11:59:19 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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Oh for God's sake. Give me ten minutes with a microcontroller and I'll hook it up for you

Go for it, Scotty... ;)

12 posted on 09/02/2007 12:00:44 PM PDT by mikrofon (Space BUMP)
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To: whipitgood; Cyber Liberty; theDentist; patton
Oh sure, no one can figure out a way to interface modern computers with the 1970’s technology on the spacecraft? You must be kidding me.

Well, yes.

Try sending Morse code by your PC to “somebody” with an original telegraph receiving key/clicker. The two technologies are common (digital signals “encrypted/translated” by specific codes into a common written or spoken language, but the physical transmittal and reception need to be physically hooked together for that application.

Or, try playing an old DOS-based/5” floppy disk PC flight game or calculation program on today’s PC: the speeds and protocols are so different that even if the floppy could be read, the program can’t be played because the machine speeds are too fast for the game to be played.

Besides, you're talking NASA here. What do you think they are, rocket scientists or something?

13 posted on 09/02/2007 12:03:40 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

No. All the rocket scientist are at MDA.


14 posted on 09/02/2007 12:07:30 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: whipitgood
Oh sure, no one can figure out a way to interface modern computers with the 1970’s technology on the spacecraft? You must be kidding me.

Oh, how little you know...

Didn't you hear about the guy that came back from the future, because the fate of the world depended on a specific piece of 1980s vintage IBM pc hardware?

He made all sorts of posting on the internet while he was here in this time.

I can't quite remember, whoops, look up "John Titor" to get the whole "story".

15 posted on 09/02/2007 12:07:50 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kirkwood

Well, that and NASA wants to know when intersetllar space begins.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 12:08:08 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

” ... 8” floppy disk ...”


17 posted on 09/02/2007 12:12:03 PM PDT by jamaksin
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To: jamaksin
” ... 8” floppy disk ...”

Better yet, how about a nine track tape? God what a pain in the @$$ those were. And slow, ...

18 posted on 09/02/2007 12:36:20 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: Calvin Locke

Just wondering how someone can come back from the future when the future doesn’t exist yet - it only happens microsecond to microsecond ... as I type this what I wrote was in the past and when you read this it’ll be in the past too ... you can go back in time (supposedly) but you can’t go to someplace that doesn’t exist yet .... but then, what do I know .. :)


19 posted on 09/02/2007 12:48:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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To: SkyDancer

According to Parmenides time is impossible.


20 posted on 09/02/2007 12:50:08 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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