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Candidates say Scripture justifies war
Spartanburg Herald-Journal ^ | September 2, 2007 | Jason Spencer

Posted on 09/02/2007 5:04:30 AM PDT by Clear Rivers

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1 posted on 09/02/2007 5:04:34 AM PDT by Clear Rivers
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"The last thing any of them wants to do is tie their morals or values regarding the war directly to Christianity, because then the debate turns into one of Christianity versus Islam, Olson said."

Like that's a bad thing.

2 posted on 09/02/2007 5:13:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: Clear Rivers

More bias, word for word, than even the NYT dares to print. And though he can’t spell Adolf, he attempts to bring a historical perspective (with a selection of comments, as if quotation marks are magic talismans against any suspicion of bias).


3 posted on 09/02/2007 5:41:11 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Clear Rivers
If we are to qoute the Bible to justify war, let us fight the war as it is ordered to be fought in the Bible. Why did God fire Saul and hire David? Because Saul, like George Bush, pussy footed around instead of killing all.

Close the borders and fight to win, that is the candidate I will support.

4 posted on 09/02/2007 5:54:17 AM PDT by wearearepublic
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To: wearearepublic

See my tagline...Only one out of the bunch that is action, not talk!


5 posted on 09/02/2007 6:19:17 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: wearearepublic

“Close the borders and fight to win”? Then you want Duncan Hunter. These two issues are central themes of his campaign.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 6:25:18 AM PDT by buckeye49 (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT '08)
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To: Graymatter
The heck with it, "onward Christian soldiers..."
7 posted on 09/02/2007 6:26:39 AM PDT by Rush4U
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To: Clear Rivers

Oh, now it’s evil for Western Civilization to defend itself. Not PC. (Pardon me while I throw up in the waste basket.)


8 posted on 09/02/2007 6:28:20 AM PDT by hershey
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"The last thing any of them wants to do is tie their morals or values regarding the war directly to Christianity, because then the debate turns into one of Christianity versus Islam, Olson said."

Like that's a bad thing.

Yes it is! Why how would you like Muslems invoking their God for say a "jihad" against western civilization??? We need to leave them alone to peacefully practice their form of worship with car bombs and suicide bombers!

9 posted on 09/02/2007 6:39:16 AM PDT by Bommer (“He that controls the spice controls the universe!” (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!))
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To: Clear Rivers
Romans 13:3,4 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

For he (a ruler or government) is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Looks pretty clear to me that the Apostle Paul, who was clearly led by God, believed that rulers/governments had a duty to punish evil and protect good.

Now, I don't personally believe that every Christian is led by God to join the Military, but being willing to be a part of the "sword" of government to punish the "evil doers" is being a "minister of God."

Sincerely
10 posted on 09/02/2007 6:44:32 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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"The same Bible that says 'thou shall not kill' is filled with references to war," Huckabee said. "It's never an ideal. It always should be the last resort. But I don't think anybody would deny that war was a necessary action to stop Adolph Hitler, to stop the invasion of Japan in the United States, and to stop many evils that have happened throughout history. It's not something that you take lightly or enter into with a cavalier spirit, but sometimes it is the only way to put aside an evil that is determined to destroy others."

I do not like war anymore than anyone else. However, this commandment Huckabee uses is specific to premeditated homicide.... laying in wait .... with 'evil' intent.... say like rape.... robbery... etc.

The facts regarding this particular war, that the leftist keep trying to recreate into their last war they pulled the plug, was started by these global terrorists premeditated killers. It is a national duty Biblically speaking to defend and protect civilizations against the viral spreading of premeditated killers whether said virus is called a religion or by some other name.

Wonder does the Bible say anything about waring in say Iraq and neighborhoods...

11 posted on 09/02/2007 6:51:57 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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It is your SACRED DUTY to oppose evil, whether you are a government or a person.
12 posted on 09/02/2007 6:54:38 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Just mythoughts
The same Bible that says 'thou shall not kill'

I believe the correct translation is "murder", not "kill". Totally different animals.

13 posted on 09/02/2007 6:56:37 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: BipolarBob

Yes it is like SUPER ULTIMATE politically incorrect.


14 posted on 09/02/2007 7:00:40 AM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: AmericaUnited
I believe the correct translation is "murder", not "kill". Totally different animals.

Yes, reason why I put the specific meaning of "murder" premeditated with evil intent. The Bible goes into detail about loss of life, from accidental to premeditated. Even tells what the penalty required in prevention of further 'crime'. Sadly those 'standards' are not seen as fit in much of secularism and even some religions.

15 posted on 09/02/2007 7:06:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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from accidental

There were even sanctuary cities where the 'perp' could be safe from the mad family and friends.

16 posted on 09/02/2007 7:08:57 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Graymatter

...and nary a mention of a single dimocRAT’s views.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 7:11:50 AM PDT by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: AmericaUnited
There were even sanctuary cities where the 'perp' could be safe from the mad family and friends.

Very insightful for sheepherders, seemed to work every time it was tried.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 7:13:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: AmericaUnited
It is your SACRED DUTY to oppose evil, whether you are a government or a person.

True, but you can oppose evil in more ways then being in the military. I recognize that Christians have different callings for God. (1 Cor 12:28 & Eph 4:11)Not everybody is fit to be in the military. A Christian's primary service is to God First; Family, Country, and Community are secondary.

As a Christian, our primary fight isn't a physical one but one of the spirit. (Eph. 6:12) After all, what does it profit the world if freedom is everywhere but people still die in their sins? (A slight revision of Mark 8:36)

Sincerely
19 posted on 09/02/2007 8:54:17 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: AmericaUnited

Amen.


20 posted on 09/02/2007 8:55:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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