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Mexico trucks to roll on U.S. highways
Yahoo News ^ | September. 1, 2007 | John Crawley

Posted on 09/01/2007 11:04:13 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man

BUMP


121 posted on 09/01/2007 5:35:09 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

“How can we take Bush seriously on WOT considering his position on this issue, amnesty, open borders, Johnny Sutton, etc.?”

We can’t!


122 posted on 09/01/2007 5:36:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: rockinqsranch

“The situation is that Mexican National trucks are being allowed to run the United States in its entirety and are now in competition with the American National Major Truckload Carriers. If you think the American National Major Truckload Carriers welcome this competition, you are out of your head.”

Correct.


123 posted on 09/01/2007 5:40:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Oatka
"Are they certified for HazMat? Wait until they spill one of those babies!"

... at which point the headlines will read "SUV Causes Hazardous Spill" ... the unwritten part - "by being in the way when Mexican truck lost control"...

124 posted on 09/01/2007 5:52:19 PM PDT by WireAndWood (I want the Barbie twins to make me a sandwich.)
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To: itsahoot

what do you mean they are going to be sneaking more of them in, not out.


125 posted on 09/01/2007 6:08:20 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
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To: DoughtyOne
Once the truch is empty, these truckers will be able to reload in the U.S. and take that load back toward their border entry point.

So they bring in Mexican goods we can purchase cheaply an then they buy our goods for dollars to sell in Mexico.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

126 posted on 09/01/2007 7:56:02 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: Reagan Man
an appeals court rejected a bid by labor, consumer and environmental interests to block the initiative

I will support whatever those groups oppose.

127 posted on 09/01/2007 7:59:21 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: Alberta's Child

NAFTA, has been bad for America, and I don’t give a hoot what it’s done for the petroleum fact cat elites in Mexico or Canada.


128 posted on 09/02/2007 12:30:34 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: zeebee

There are so many downsides to this that it is pointless to try and reason with folks who think it’s all a lark.

You take care.


129 posted on 09/02/2007 12:37:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: rockinqsranch
Go look at the website for the American Trucking Association. This is one of the most important regulatory issues affecting the trucking industry in years, and yet the ATA apparently doesn't have anything to say about it. Their silence is absolutely deafening. On the other hand, the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has made numerous public statements opposing this change in cross-border trucking regulations -- even to the point of recognizing it as the biggest issue it now faces.

Keep in mind that the opening of the U.S. border to Mexican truckers is not a blanket, open-ended relaxation of cross-border trucking rules. The proposed USDOT initiative restricts this "open access" to only a select number of large Mexican fleets -- which basically protects the large U.S. trucking fleets from competition from small Mexican outfits while at the same time giving these large U.S. companies the opportunity to cut deals with the large Mexican fleets. You're probably going to see major U.S. firms like Schneider and J.B. Hunt signing agreements with these Mexican carriers that are similar to the deals U.S. airlines sign with foreign airlines to improve the efficiency of international travel. If you buy an airline ticket from United Airlines to fly between the U.S. and Canada, you pay United for the ticket and carry a United ticket to the gate, but you may end up flying an Air Canada aircraft on one leg of the trip.

The figures you are quoting are out of context for the entire of the American Trucking Industry. If one were to include local O/O’s that operate short haul perhaps you could achieve the figure of 80%-90% you are stating in your response.

My figures are probably reasonably accurate. Keep in mind that many of the trucks that operate in the large U.S. fleets are actually driven by owner-operators who sign contracts with these companies. When you pass an orange Schneider truck on the highway somewhere, you aren't necessarily passing a truck that is being driven by a Schneider employee.

Don’t forget it won’t be long and the Ports in our Nation will be empty of ships due that now Mexican trucks are allowed to invade our Sovereignty, the International Shipping Community will shift to Mexico to take advantage of the cheaper Port rates, cheaper Longshore, and trucking that is uninhibited by U.S. Environmental and Safety requirements.

You might be right, but I predict that it will be at least 200 years before this happens. The biggest problem this country faces in terms of its ports is that we import so much crap from all over Asia that all of our West Coast ports are operating at or near their capacity right now. There aren't enough ports on the Pacific coast of North and South America (combined) to handle the projected volume of U.S. imports over the next 20 years.

130 posted on 09/02/2007 10:57:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“You’re probably going to see major U.S. firms like Schneider and J.B. Hunt signing agreements with these Mexican carriers...”

Been going on in the industry for years already. It’s called “Logistics”.

“My figures are probably reasonably accurate. Keep in mind that many of the trucks that operate in the large U.S. fleets are actually driven by owner-operators who sign contracts with these companies.”

I had all that in mind when I responded that your figures are out of context. I’ve been involved in the Transportation Industry since 1968 and am semi retired at this time. I was involved at the beginning of International Ocean Cargo Container Shipping in my former years, and Truck Transportation and Containers in my latter years. I would hope I learned something about the Industry during those years.

“You might be right, but I predict that it will be at least 200 years before this happens.”

Alberta...(Shaking head) I disagree with your time line prediction as I was involved in many a meeting with the Principals of the International Container Ship Operators going back as early as 1970. The only reason the International Shipping Community hasn’t moved to Mexico is because of transportation out of Mexico. Now with the opening of our borders to Mexican trucks, this action by the International Shipping Community will happen very soon. Perhaps not en masse, but substantially enough to hurt our economy in various American Port cities.


131 posted on 09/02/2007 11:19:04 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: BigFinn

http://www.jbs.org/node/914


132 posted on 09/02/2007 9:34:41 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Alberta's Child
There aren't enough ports on the Pacific coast of North and South America (combined) to handle the projected volume of U.S. imports over the next 20 years.

This could be fixed in a heartbeat. Vote out of office or otherwise remove all the corrupt politicians investing in China and taking money from China and other asian/communist countries.

Domestic manufacturing will revive, and America will be the better for it if we put these crooks and traitors in prison.
133 posted on 09/02/2007 9:38:48 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: biff
How in hell were we talked into voting for him?

It's not like we had a choice.

134 posted on 09/03/2007 7:22:06 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Reagan Man; hedgetrimmer

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135 posted on 09/16/2007 9:37:14 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Coleus

Thanks for the link.


136 posted on 09/17/2007 6:23:48 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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