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Pat Buchanan: "The Friends of Larry Craig"
humanevents ^ | August 31 2007 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/31/2007 2:04:37 PM PDT by freedomdefender

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To: carrier-aviator
--Meanwhile, 5 years ago the GOP governor of SD killed a motorist, resigned, and went to jail.--

--former governor Janklow was a member of congress when the automobile death occurred--

41 posted on 08/31/2007 2:46:37 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: carrier-aviator
"Just remember, the Dems never apologize and never resign. The GOP, on the other hand eats their own, and even a mere accusation causes them to resign. This has go to change."

Shout it from the rooftops. How many times must this happen to the GOP?

42 posted on 08/31/2007 2:47:01 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: freedomdefender

Craig really was not proven guilty, but he had to go because of the way he handle the situation it showed his incompetence!


43 posted on 08/31/2007 2:47:25 PM PDT by restornu (Most of Cyber Space passes through FR portals ~ Freepers Are Some Of The Most Aware People On Earth!)
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To: Always Independent
He should say I’ll resign if Ted Kennedy resigns.

Just how far are you willing to lower the bar to even the score?

44 posted on 08/31/2007 2:47:50 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: rellimpank

Noted, thanks. :-)


45 posted on 08/31/2007 2:48:12 PM PDT by carrier-aviator
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To: freedomdefender
Reveling in Craig's disgrace, the liberal media not only cast the first stone, but most of them. They are mocking Craig as a family-values hypocrite who indulges privately in conduct he publicly condemns. But even assuming Craig has led a second and secret life, would that automatically make him a hypocrite, a fraud, an Elmer Gantry?

How about a Charles Kuralt?

Kuralt had a second, secret family that nobody knew about until after his death. He did many shows "On the road" depicting wholesome Americana, while all the time living a secret almost-bigamous lifestyle.

The funny thing is, after the initial shock, the MSM tried to rehabilitate Kuralt's image, suggesting that he was guilty of "loving too much."

-PJ

46 posted on 08/31/2007 2:50:01 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Mark was here
"In other words, they should hang out in bathrooms and arrest someone for actually having sex in the bathroom, not for tapping his shoes."

Thank you. You are exactly right.
47 posted on 08/31/2007 2:50:50 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: Petronski
Poor Larry.

He brought this on himself. He has done everything we dislike in the Democrats. He is a moral deviant and has brought shame upon his family, his state and his country.

He is responsible for his actions and had he accepted that responsibility instead of been deceitful to his family, his constituents and his associates then he would be due a lot more compassion and sympathy.

He is lying to cover a moral depravity.
48 posted on 08/31/2007 2:50:54 PM PDT by elizabetty (Was it Dolley Madison or Dolli Madison? First Ladies should not end their name with "I")
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To: Right_in_Virginia

It was sarcasm. My point being he shouldn’t resign.


49 posted on 08/31/2007 2:51:11 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: freedomdefender

Larry Craig should take the Senate floor and announce that he is resigning...

right after the Senator that deserted a woman to drowned after he drove off a bridge in a drunken stupor resigns...

and right after the Senator that made a killing in cattle futures through a sweetheart deal resigns...

and right after the senator that said that a former Ku Klux Klan Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops would make a great President resigns...

and... etc, etc...


50 posted on 08/31/2007 2:53:24 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: freedomdefender

The Larry Craig Saga - What really happened:

I was barely sitting down when I heard a voice from the other stall saying: “Hi, how are you?”

I’m not the type to start a conversation in the restroom but I don’t know what got into me, so I answered, somewhat embarrassed, “Doin’ just fine!”

And the other person says: “So what are you up to?”

What kind of question is that? At that point, I’m thinking this is too bizarre so I say: “Uhhh, I’m like you, just traveling!”

At this point I am just trying to get out as fast as I can when I hear another question. “Can I come over?”

Ok, this question is just too weird for me but I figured I could just be polite and end the conversation. I tell them “No.......I’m a little busy right now!!!”

Then I hear the person say nervously... “Listen, I’ll have to call you back. There’s an idiot in the other stall who keeps answering all my questions!


51 posted on 08/31/2007 2:54:17 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: freedomdefender

“Is there no possibility a man can believe in traditional morality, yet find himself tempted to behavior that morally disgusts him?’

How can you be tempted to that which disgusts you?

What Pat seems to be arguing is that a guy who finds another guy’s hairy ass sexually arousing can’t help himself and isn’t a hypocrite for denouncing others who say outloud what he is thinking.

If he can’t help but be aroused, it goes clearly against the grain of socon belief that homosexuality is a choice. Maybe Pat believes that, I don’t know. Craig doubtless doesn’t.


52 posted on 08/31/2007 2:54:56 PM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: KantianBurke
True but Craig actions,a goldmine of sleaziness and hypocrisy, could have engendered blackmail or worse. Not a minor concern when keeping in mind his seniority and access to top secret military information. Sorry but Craig needs to step down right away.

How much you want to bet that Bahnny Frank and other gays in the House and Senate have hooked up in a public restroom at some point in their careers? This witch hunt for Craig is nothing more than a sensational news story timed for release to provide cover for the real crooks like Hildebeast and the Hildebeast and the other crooks who took Chinese bribe money (no doubt including a few crooked republicans).

Reids handling of the arrest and plea deal shows clearly he is an idiot and not competent to be a Senator, but that is problem for the voters of Idaho. Craig is not an immediate threat to our republic like Hhildebeast and the other treasonous pigs who operate with imputiny.

Until that witch is wearing a striped pant suit don't even talk to me about the morality of Craig

53 posted on 08/31/2007 2:55:23 PM PDT by suijuris
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Stevens was asked about Craig, but said his attorneys have advised him not to make any comments about any investigations right now. Stevens is the focus of an FBI probe into corruption.

U.S. Rep. Don Young spokeswoman Meredith Kenny says Young, who also is under investigation, is traveling in northern Alaska and not immediately available by telephone or e-mail.

54 posted on 08/31/2007 2:56:11 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: freedomdefender

A true friend would hold Craig fully accountable and not defend the indefensible, and since Craig has not owned up to his sick, twisted and disgusting behavior he has compounded the matter and really does deserve what he is getting.


55 posted on 08/31/2007 2:57:57 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Petronski; freedomdefender; elizabetty
Laura Ingram Audio Romney on Craig Immigration etc. AUDIO

Mitt Romney Talks Larry Craig on Kudlow VIDEO

56 posted on 08/31/2007 3:00:42 PM PDT by restornu (Most of Cyber Space passes through FR portals ~ Freepers Are Some Of The Most Aware People On Earth!)
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To: Patrick1
I would have more compassion for Craig if hadn't whipped out his Senate business card to intimidate the cop.

Me too. I can see where a cop might be initially inclined to give him a break. But once Craig made his being a senator an issue, the cop could have reasoned that there was no way he could cut Craig any slack without it being interpreted as a response to his being a senator.

57 posted on 08/31/2007 3:01:06 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: TNCMAXQ
"Did Craig even do anything illegal?"

I wish he'd gone to court to ask that specific question.

He tapped his shoe. It's claimed he waved his hand under the edge of the stall. It's claimed he nudged his neighbor's foot.

Those are crimes?

C'mon, folks, we conservatives are supposed to be steadfast against governmental overreach and ambition. At a time when millions of illegals have poured over the southern border (six of whom went on to attempt mass murder at Ft. Dix, and there may literally be more where those came from), at a time when real graft (as in $90k wrapped in foil in a congressman's freezer) is endemic in Congress, at a time when jihadis lurk among us awaiting a secret call... we have cops waiting in public rest-rooms waiting for someone to tap their toes? Meanwhile the AMT has carved a hole in the middle class, our military is vilified by Hollywood, and der Hildebeast is measuring the White House curtains... don't we as a society, and especially we as conservatives, have more important and momentous things to focus on? Should our pockets be raided to pay for cops with so little to do?
58 posted on 08/31/2007 3:02:03 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: freedomdefender

No one ever asked the question, but through his stall experience...did he ever pinch a loaf?

Aye, there’s the rub!


59 posted on 08/31/2007 3:02:37 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: freedomdefender

“If a cop has time to sit, plainclothed, in a stall, couldn’t he just stand in the bathroom, in his uniform? That would end the shenanigans more surely than sting operations.”

Yes, for the moment. But all the pervs would still be out and unaccounted for. I’d rather have them caught. I think it’s a far better disincentive for that sort of behavior, and I have a dream, someday, I will be able to send my son to a public bathroom and not worry that he is being propositioned by sodomites.


60 posted on 08/31/2007 3:02:49 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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