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Another Romney ad, another attempt to mislead Iowans
Iowa Politics ^ | 8/30/07 | Carrie Giddins/Chris Allen

Posted on 08/31/2007 1:07:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Former Governor Mitt Romney is back on television in Iowa and this time he’s literally running from his record. Romney likes to claim that he never raised taxes during his tenure in Massachusetts but conveniently avoids telling Iowans about the 90 state fees he either created or raised during his first year in office... Property Taxes Rose to Highest Level in 25 Years. Romney's cuts to local aid forced Massachusetts property taxes to their highest level in 25 years. [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05]

Associated Industries of Massachusetts: Romney Forced Hike in Local Commercial Property Taxes. Romney "signed a measure that allowed local officials to raise the commercial property tax rate, which cost business owners $100 million, according to Associated Industries of Massachusetts, the state's largest business group." [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05]

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Romney - a tax by any other name stinks.
1 posted on 08/31/2007 1:07:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

what were these 25 fees?


2 posted on 08/31/2007 1:10:16 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

try this...

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/28/927429-romney-used-fee-hikes-to-trim-budget


3 posted on 08/31/2007 1:13:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

By definition...anybody elected to a statewide office in Taxachusetts is no Republican.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 1:14:40 PM PDT by kjo
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Romney "signed a measure that allowed local officials to raise the commercial property tax rate

Romney isn't my guy but, frankly, I'm not bothered much if state officials allow local officials more control over local tax rates.

5 posted on 08/31/2007 1:15:14 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Horseback riding instructors, prisoners, those seeking training to combat domestic violence and used car shoppers were asked to dig a little deeper. Romney and Democratic lawmakers ended up approving hundreds of millions in higher fees and fines, making it more expensive to use an ice skating rink, register a boat, take the bar exam, get a duplicate driver's license, file a court case, install underground storage tanks, sell cigarettes or alcohol, comply with air quality rules and transport hazardous waste.

Just so all know what fees they're talking about...

6 posted on 08/31/2007 1:17:59 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: kjo

For the most part, yes.


7 posted on 08/31/2007 1:19:46 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Property Taxes Rose to Highest Level in 25 Years. Romney's cuts to local aid forced Massachusetts property taxes to their highest level in 25 years. [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05]

Associated Industries of Massachusetts: Romney Forced Hike in Local Commercial Property Taxes. Romney "signed a measure that allowed local officials to raise the commercial property tax rate, which cost business owners $100 million, according to Associated Industries of Massachusetts, the state's largest business group." [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05]

Hmm... Sounds to me like they're trying to blame Romney for tax increases by local governments.

If the Feds stopped subsidizing corporate farms, meaning that those farms had to raise their prices to make up the difference, would it be the Feds' fault that your breakfast cereal cost $0.25 more?

That seems to be the gist of what happened.

As far as the fees thing, I don't have too much of a problem with that. Fees are directed taxes, meaning those who use a government service are the ones who pay for it. If raising fees keeps the budget in balance, and generalized taxes are kept in check by so doing, that's much better than (and different from) a general tax increase.

Those who use it should pay for it, or the government shouldn't do it in the first place. Switching from general taxpayer-funded services toward more fee-based services is progress in the right direction, IMO.

Once again, the Liberal Media are popping out the predictable Romney hit pieces, and you're drinking the Kool-Aid as fast as you can, AMPU.

8 posted on 08/31/2007 1:20:41 PM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: theDentist

Was there a net gain in taxes?

Is the state (I know... commonwealth) getting these fees?


9 posted on 08/31/2007 1:22:54 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats are killing our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Romney's latest ads were both good.

The one of him "running" released today.

"Leadership"

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And one thanking Iowa voters. The first time I know of a candidate actually thanking voters in an ad.

"Thanks Iowa"

10 posted on 08/31/2007 1:25:49 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: xmission

I suppose so.... I just thought that if there were 25 new fees, we readers should have an idea of what they specifically are.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 1:27:21 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Rameumptom

ROMNEY RUNS LIKE A GIRL! YECH!


12 posted on 08/31/2007 1:39:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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Ah, I have some minor issues with Romney, but cutting local aid, and rising property tax isn’t one of them. Like any crooked, lying organization, the state of Massachusetts and local town governments love, just love to play funny with taxpayers money. Property taxes are raised by local towns, and they have been on fat, union teacher, fireman and police funding orgies. Throw in green environmentalism. And, don’t even look at local borrowing and rising debts and debt service.
13 posted on 08/31/2007 1:40:36 PM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Property Taxes Rose to Highest Level in 25 Years. Romney's cuts to local aid forced Massachusetts property taxes to their highest level in 25 years.

I am not a Rommney supporter or opponent. But did Rommney sign legsilation increasing the property taxes? If not, its a bogus argument.

It is no different than back in 2002, 2003, and 2004 when the libs tried to claim Bush was raising peoples property taxes because of bogus "cuts" to state aid.

14 posted on 08/31/2007 1:58:56 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What! A Mormon attempting to mislead.

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 2:05:19 PM PDT by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Under Romney's plan for Massachusetts, the cost of registering firearms would have jumped from $25 to $75. He also called for increases in the cost of firearm identification cards, application fees for a license to carry firearms, and gun dealer fees.

Gun owners said they felt unfairly targeted by Romney's proposed increases. Democratic lawmakers applauded Romney's proposal — ultimately raising the cost of gun licenses to $100.

"We certainly shouldn't be paying anything for our Second Amendment right, because it's a civil right," said Jim Wallace, executive director of the Gun Owner's Action League.

And the NRA gave Romney a B rating. NRA go KMA

16 posted on 08/31/2007 2:06:25 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

>>I bet someone like Soros was feeding him the money to donate. From what I have read, none of his businesses check out, so where did he get all the money he has donated. A lot of his addresses are phony as well.<<

I don’t automatically object to the government charging for services they provide - that is not automatically the same as a tax.

Charging a little money for things makes people waste them less.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 2:08:31 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Property Taxes Rose to Highest Level in 25 Years. Romney's cuts to local aid forced Massachusetts property taxes to their highest level in 25 years. [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05] Associated Industries of Massachusetts: Romney Forced Hike in Local Commercial Property Taxes. Romney "signed a measure that allowed local officials to raise the commercial property tax rate, which cost business owners $100 million, according to Associated Industries of Massachusetts, the state's largest business group." [Quincy Patriot Ledger, 12/16/05; Boston Globe, 10/24/05]

In neither of the cases that you cited did Mitt Romney raise taxes. He CUT state aid to localities. What they did after that was up the them. If they raised taxes, that was their own problem. Romney showed fiscal responsibility by CUTTING unneccessary aid. Obviously, if they were restricted before from raising taxes to make up the difference, the law would need to be changed to allow them to if they chose to at the local level.

18 posted on 08/31/2007 2:15:56 PM PDT by Spiff
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Hmm... Sounds to me like they're trying to blame Romney for tax increases by local governments.

Ding!

19 posted on 08/31/2007 2:17:32 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Phantom Lord

“But did Rommney sign legsilation increasing the property taxes? If not, its a bogus argument.”

It depends on the state. In some the state can affect the calculation of property taxes, which may not officially raise them but can increase them nonetheless.


20 posted on 08/31/2007 2:20:21 PM PDT by cosine
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