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Very sad and unsettling....when I was 11,  the thought of drinking, much less getting drunk, never entered my mind.  I was too busy building treehouses and riding my bicycle.

The article naturally causes me to wonder if the trends are similar here in the USA.

1 posted on 08/31/2007 10:41:56 AM PDT by Stoat
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2 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:42 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Say, how’s that prohibition thing working out, eh?


3 posted on 08/31/2007 10:43:08 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Shock figures show 11 to 13-year-olds drinking twice as much alcohol as they did five years ago

So how much were these kids drinking when they were 6 to 8 years old? \sarc

4 posted on 08/31/2007 10:44:01 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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Not surprising when you think about it.

Five years ago they were 6 to 8 years old. Hard to get the guy to take your fake ID when you can’t even see over the counter.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 10:45:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Scratch a liberal, find a dhimmi)
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STELLA!!! STELLAAAAAA!!!

6 posted on 08/31/2007 10:45:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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With all of the underage drinking in Harry Potter, it's no wonder kids are drinking more.

7 posted on 08/31/2007 10:46:29 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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Four out of 10 pupils aged 11-15 have tried smoking at least once, and a majority of young smokers are illegally served in shops.

That sounds pretty much like my junior-high years, and my mother's, too.

8 posted on 08/31/2007 10:47:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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The official survey of tobacco, alcohol and drug use among 11-to 15-year-olds reveals the number of school-age drinkers is falling overall but a hard core is consuming more each year.


How much can you really believe in a survey, especially to 11 to 15 year olds who want to brag?


10 posted on 08/31/2007 10:48:32 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Why is it not considered Labour’s fault? If Thatcher were in power during such a thing that would be all people would talk about.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 10:50:47 AM PDT by ikka
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How much did they drink when they were 6-8 years old?


16 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:01 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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First time I got drunk was when I was 18. I also went way passed drunk, too.


26 posted on 08/31/2007 11:03:21 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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My brother-in-law was visiting our house with his 13 year old son, and he was trying to give his son a beer.

I just looked at him and said “Not in my house”. I told my husband what happened, and he said “good for you” and backed me up (of course).

My brother-in-law isn’t welcome in my home anymore.

I feel sorry for his kids.


28 posted on 08/31/2007 11:05:16 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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I don’t get the problem here...

I’m a non-drinker and constantly get chastized and belittled for it. “Hey, there’s nothing wrong with it! It’s GOOD for you!...”

so what’s the problem? What makes it okay for an 18 yr. old to consume alcohol when it was a bad thing just ONE day before?

Just throwing this out tongue in cheek...


33 posted on 08/31/2007 11:08:14 AM PDT by KingRonnie9
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Well, if the kids had a healthy past time - like shooting guns, they wouldn’t be sitting around drinking.


37 posted on 08/31/2007 11:14:40 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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I remember my cousin and I finding a few jugs of hard cider in my grandparents cellar. Alcohol content was probably about 3%. Deceptively good tasting stuff until the headache later. We were about eight or nine then. Taught me a lesson. I didn’t have another drink for twenty some years. Smoking was another thing. Most of the boys I grew up with tried it one time or another and some took up smoking a pipe or having a chew. Very few smoked cigarettes as they were too expensive. I tried a chaw once but didn’t know not to swallow the juice. I was sick as a dog for a couple of days. Never tried it again.


41 posted on 08/31/2007 11:19:43 AM PDT by Leg Olam
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They have turned to the bottle because global warming is so depressing.


44 posted on 08/31/2007 11:22:28 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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It wouldn’t surprise me at all. All the trends seem to point to degradation of the culture. And once the snowball gets rolling, it’s hard to stop it.

Unfortunately, I think the only thing that will wake the nation up is something so horrific (terrorist acts, AIDS-type epidemics, etc.) that people have little choice but to turn back to God and traditional values.


50 posted on 08/31/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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I’ve been thinking a lot about this kind of stuff lately. When I was growing up in the early 60’s, things were different.

Oh, I know people were wild then too, but it still was different. We knew it wasn’t a good idea, we knew it was wrong. Kids who got pregnant were sent to their aunts to have babies. Kids who showed up at school drunk were the jerks.

I think it has a lot to do with the willful erasing of organized faith in people’s lives. Even if you didn’t believe, you went to church and got a moral lesson every week. Kids nowadays are taught to be accountable to no one but themselves. “The greatest love of all”.

It’s funny how mankind thinks they are constantly making things better, while I see it slowly getting worse and worse. Even the music nowadays is garbage.


53 posted on 08/31/2007 11:39:56 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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I don’t know about the USA. But, from what I’ve experienced with friends and public in Scotland and England is an extremely high rate of drinkers. Scotland in particular. Probably not much else to do in a place where it rains so much. Genetics, I guess, also contribute. Very sad.


54 posted on 08/31/2007 11:49:46 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)
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Shock figures show 11 to 13-year-olds drinking twice as much alcohol as they did five years ago

Well you'd expect that, wouldn't you? After all, they were only 6-8 year olds then...

56 posted on 08/31/2007 11:58:56 AM PDT by Wil H (Islam translates to "submission", not "peace" - you can figure out the rest.)
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