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To: ejonesie22

It’s not a mental illness to defend the constitution. Many a veteran on this site, including myself, have taken a solemn oath to suppoprt and defend the Constitution of These United States...to bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution. Many, like myself, took that oath seriously.

Your position that the Constitution is a living breathing document is progessively liberal. Let me quote you:

“As far as ignoring the Constitution, it has been done more than once. Does that suck, perhaps and perhaps not depending on the exact issue.”

This little tidbit told me all that I needed to know regarding your allegiance, as well as your political leanings toward progressive socialism. All at the expense of our Constitution...the rule of law, the very foundation upon which this nation stands from which all subsequent laws must flow. The very document I swore to support and defend.

No, defense of the Constitution is not insane. It is a solemnn obligation for many...self included.

Now can people whose allegiance’s lie outside the confines of the Constitution be considered traitors to the document? For those who have taken the oath, I believe it worthy of consideration.

If one never gave the oath, never offered his/her life to the service of this nation, then they have no real understanding of what it actually means to do so. Otherwise, you would not be labelling allegiance to it a form of absolutism.

I commend you for helping veterans. One sure way of helping them is to learn to support what they have themselves sworn to support and defend. It sure as heck ‘ain’t no’ living breathing document. It’s the law of the land. Too many Americans have fought and died for any American to take our Constitution lightly.

You, ejonesie22, spend a lot of time here bashing a true Constitutionalist. No, you are not the only one. But you are one of the more outspoken ones. As such, you are open to be perceived as someone opposed to the Constitution when you go about bashing a congressman who always casts his vote founded on Constitutional principle.

Moreover, your offering, as quoted above, is remarkably revealing.


289 posted on 09/03/2007 12:25:57 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for dubious security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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To: takenoprisoner
Then for you I put forth one question.

Who has the higher authority, the Constitution or the Divine Entity who inspired the men who wrote it?

As incredible a document as the Constitution is, and the fact that it lives even today as the basis for all our laws means it is a truly inspired work, on that weaves together all other documents and ideas that this nation hold dear, it does not supersede the Creator of those who created it.

I go back to my simple point. God has given man certain rules and guidelines to live by, period. Of those defending ones family is one of the most important. He tells us he has dominion over Earthly Princes and laws.

Given this simple fact, where should I place my allegiance when some one wishes to use The Constitution in asking me to abdicate my responsibility to God.

Defend the Constitution, that is something I have done for years, and shall always do so with absolute fidelity. I also have absolute love and respect for those who do it in both word and deed, and more over, as has happened to a few good friends, with life and limb. But worship it as a replacement for the One True God, place it above he who created us, I don’t think so. That is wrong and no changing of entries on the Declaration of Independence nor bending of any amendments will convince me otherwise. That was not what those men envision 200 plus years ago. they knew their role and ours as men with our laws and God's

One last thing, the fact we are still using it, that fact it can be amended makes the Constitution a living breathing piece of our on going history. It was not locked away in 1791 never to be looked at or challenged. Seventeen amendments and innumerable challenges have come since its inception. You may not like the fact that people have certain interpretations of the contents, neither do I when it runs counter to my beliefs, but it does not change the fact that it lives in us today and there have been times that it has been bypassed, some for out betterment, and some for our detriment. That is a simple historical fact. I actually find that anyone who considers it a "dead " document to be showing a good amount of at least misunderstanding of the documents role in this nation.

I gladly accept that I may be one of the more voracious voices on this topic. I am no social liberal, but I am a pragmatist and a follower of God. I place in him my life, not the state, even if it is the greatest on Earth. God has out lived them all.

292 posted on 09/03/2007 2:24:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: takenoprisoner; y'all
Your position that the Constitution is a living breathing document is progessively liberal.

More 'position' from the living-breathing contingent.

Paul’s supporters disappointed by results
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293 posted on 09/03/2007 2:35:44 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: takenoprisoner

Thank you for your service.

Voting for Ron Paul who has no chance of being elected as a Republican presidential candidate brings to mind the liberal mindset where results don’t matter, it’s the thought that counts. Don’t construe this as me calling you a liberal. I am not doing so.

Protecting the constitution would be served more by electing constitutional abiding candidates to the state and federal legislatures. Gambling your political fortune on a single roll of the dice is never a wise move. Leaping farther than you are capable, will leave you standing in the ditch.

RP is unelectable on a national level.

The Democrats while they are stupid on many levels, know politics and they took notice when they got beat by Republicans making the defense of marriage a national issue. They have raised the bar and are out for blood. A split in the Republican party falls right into their game plan. They will take full advantage and will do what they can to widen the split.

Look closely at those groups who say they stand with Ron Paul. Not all are interested so much seeing Ron Paul elected as much as they wish the Republican party to be split.

I just hope that the puritan Republicans and Paulistinians realize what they face with a split party.


297 posted on 09/03/2007 2:55:48 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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