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To: takenoprisoner
Then for you I put forth one question.

Who has the higher authority, the Constitution or the Divine Entity who inspired the men who wrote it?

As incredible a document as the Constitution is, and the fact that it lives even today as the basis for all our laws means it is a truly inspired work, on that weaves together all other documents and ideas that this nation hold dear, it does not supersede the Creator of those who created it.

I go back to my simple point. God has given man certain rules and guidelines to live by, period. Of those defending ones family is one of the most important. He tells us he has dominion over Earthly Princes and laws.

Given this simple fact, where should I place my allegiance when some one wishes to use The Constitution in asking me to abdicate my responsibility to God.

Defend the Constitution, that is something I have done for years, and shall always do so with absolute fidelity. I also have absolute love and respect for those who do it in both word and deed, and more over, as has happened to a few good friends, with life and limb. But worship it as a replacement for the One True God, place it above he who created us, I don’t think so. That is wrong and no changing of entries on the Declaration of Independence nor bending of any amendments will convince me otherwise. That was not what those men envision 200 plus years ago. they knew their role and ours as men with our laws and God's

One last thing, the fact we are still using it, that fact it can be amended makes the Constitution a living breathing piece of our on going history. It was not locked away in 1791 never to be looked at or challenged. Seventeen amendments and innumerable challenges have come since its inception. You may not like the fact that people have certain interpretations of the contents, neither do I when it runs counter to my beliefs, but it does not change the fact that it lives in us today and there have been times that it has been bypassed, some for out betterment, and some for our detriment. That is a simple historical fact. I actually find that anyone who considers it a "dead " document to be showing a good amount of at least misunderstanding of the documents role in this nation.

I gladly accept that I may be one of the more voracious voices on this topic. I am no social liberal, but I am a pragmatist and a follower of God. I place in him my life, not the state, even if it is the greatest on Earth. God has out lived them all.

292 posted on 09/03/2007 2:24:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22
Who has the higher authority, the Constitution or the Divine Entity who inspired the men who wrote it?

No doubt about it, in your spiritual life, -- we can see that the Divine Entity you believe in has the highest authority.

And possibly, - the men who wrote our Constitution also believed that concept. - Tho many were said to be 'freethinkers'.

However, -- in our day to day business and political life, the Constitution is our Law of the Land.

You've mentioned "defending ones family", - how is our Constitution stopping you from that goal?

298 posted on 09/03/2007 2:58:58 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: ejonesie22

“Who has the higher authority, the Constitution or the Divine Entity who inspired the men who wrote it?”

Our creator endowed us with unalienable rights. Our Constitution is the instrument thru which our Divine Creator seeks to protect those rights. Don’t mess with it.

“...where should I place my allegiance when some one wishes to use The Constitution in asking me to abdicate my responsibility to God.”

I find that incredible. You’re gonna have to link me to that one.

I find no fault with your order: God, family, then country. However, I also recognize that without this country and it’s Constitution, and the Americans who have sacrificed their lives for this country and it’s Constitution, there’s no telling which religion my family and I might be forced to worship.

In the interim, in this land, men have decided upon a rule of law known as the Constitution. I believe as you, that it was inspired by the Divine Creator. That’s another reason to disallow liberally progressive socialists from messin’ with it...ie passing legislation in defiance of it.

Only one man in congress today holds true to our Constitution, that even you admit was inspired by our Divine Creator. Yet you spend hours here trashing him.

In some circles, that sort of indulgence is considered the embodiment of hypocrisy.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t trash a congressman who stands firmly upon the Constitution, and then try to argue you really do support the Constitution.


305 posted on 09/03/2007 3:58:46 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for dubious security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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