Posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:05 PM PDT by Josh Painter
Who cares what the exact demographics are? All the vermin need to go, including these bastards:.
“The INS estimates that 40,000 Chinese, mainly young men, enter the United States illegally each year and disappear into big cities”.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EPF/is_22_99/ai_61361437
More:
The number of OTM’s apprehended near the southern border has been clearly and dramatically increasing from 28,598 in 2000 to 65,814 in 2004. By another estimate over 155,000 non-Mexican individuals were apprehended trying to enter the United States along the Southwest border in fiscal year 2005.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm
I will quote the House report since you don't seem to want to read it:
That doesn’t mean the process for accomplishing deportations cannot be improved. More than 95 percent of the almost 197,000 aliens deported in FY 2006 were sent to Western Hemisphere countries, 115,000 to Mexico alone. Clearly, this puts a burden on the societies and the social systems of those countries. Governments tell us that they would like more information on the criminal records of deportees, if any, and assistance in reintegrating deportees into their home countries. The Department of State has worked in close coordination with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and foreign governments to help improve and facilitate communication flows and to address concerns that receiving countries raise on process and assistance requests. We have also improved U.S. government cooperation on deportation issues through an interagency working group on deportations. This group coordinates action on deportation cases of political or national security significance, ensuring a unified U.S. Government effort with foreign governments to resolve these often urgent cases.
You say the BP does millions, but you don't back it up, so it stays speculation by you. ICE does virtually all deportations, not a small percentage. That is their primary job, so why would they do only a small percentage. Does that even make sense? The number of FY 2006 deportations, total, are right there in black and white in a US House report. Why in a report about the success of deportations would they skip the Border patrol. No agency is specified, it just simply states a total number for FY 2006
If you have a real citation to the contrary, give it to me. Not Hyperbole, not the platitudes of Duncan Hunter and his magic deportation machine but FACTS, FACTS, FACTS....
Damn it man those are the numbers I just gave you!
You said Millions!
You just showed 65,815!
Vermin, very nice, no bigotry here, no sir. That goes along way in bringing people over to our side...
Fred’s got you confused, I see. Then again, he didn’t pay any attention to the illgal invasion while he was in office, so I can understand his perplexed state. The BP is busy as we speak arresting illegal aliens and sending them back home. And not just the mexicans. But Chinese, middle easterners, south americans, haitians, you name it, they are coming. And the BP is doing its best to get rid of them.
“Since 1994, the Border Patrol has made more than 15.6 million apprehensions nationwide, more than the current combined populations (2000 U.S. Census data) of Iowa, Missouri, and Kansas.”
“In FY 2005, Border Patrol Agents made almost 1.2 million arrests of people for illegally entering the country”.
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/overview.xml
What you are doing is playing a game of semantics, typical of the open border politicians. That those that have been here a long time, or living in say, Illinois or Iowa, are the only deportations we make and that only ICE does it.
Are you saying the House report is wrong because I am a Fred fan?
However, I'll give you benefit of the doubt. 15 million in 13 years, (I'll forgo the simple fact that these were simple entries, not in place aliens) Not a great start to 12-20 million in place illegals, huh?
It’s tough isn’t it...
Sigh, I had high hopes too...
“The Border Patrol does the vast, vast majority, mostly in the SW states. Since 1994, over 15 MILLION!!!”
Yep! Sounds about right....
In 2006, when announcing he was going to put the National Guard on the Border, Bush said that in the prior 5 years, the Border Patrol had apprehended and deported 6 million!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060515-8.html
I never said they were the same thing. One, the BP, spends its blood and treasure arresting and deporting people in border states and deserts. With a secured border, that Hunter has been prmoting for 20+ years while the GOP snoozed, 1/2 the BP could be assisting ICE instead.
If it takes 13 years to get rid of them all, so be it. But once they know they will be deported, many will leave. If they have idiotic politicians telling them we are going to give them aspirations for citizenship, then they won’t.
High hope for what? Did you see the a**holes flying mexican flags during the “protests”. Did you see where they put up a mexican flag on a US Post office? Did you ever hear of the Reconquista movement? Do you have any idea how many of the chinese here are spies or how many ME’s here are terrorists?
“That goes along way in bringing people over to our side...”
OUR side???? Remember saying this?...
“Deport the odd ones here and there that we can catch and with time we will be down to a manageable level, perhaps with less than a quarter to a half left, and those will be doing jobs and be productive potential citizens, which is not a bad thing, it is where we got our start...”
I can’t speak for pissant, but when it comes to illegal immigration and amnesty, you (and plenty of other Fredheads, I suspect) are no where NEAR being anti-amnesty for illegal aliens...which is why, IMO, you argue so vociferously against Hunter’s ability to do anything about it and are quite content to settle for Fred.
Fredheads need to come clean on this. Or, if you’re going to continue to deny your and Fred’s pro-positions on illegal aliens/amnesty, at least get your story’s straight.
Those don’t count, apparetnly to those who thing 12 million is to large a number to contemplate deporting. LOL
The discussion is DEPORTATIONS, not retentions and repatriotization at the Border. That's relatively easy if not dangerous. That activity also has NOTHING to do with getting rid of those aliens already here. You remember them, the 12 million.
But you want them all gone. All of them. All of the "vermin".
BP doesn't do that. Tulsa is not the border, St Louis is not the Border, Des Monies IS NOT THE BORDER.
That is ICE's job. They got 195K last year. The figures are there, plain as day. That is not a lot in light of the LOW ball estimate of 12 Million.
But whatever, I guess we just just turn it over to you two and Duncan, the people will mass to see the wonders of your work.
I have a garage floor to paint, and I am doing with will good ole 'merican labor...
Thank you for explaining and expanding. Your post is good, more is better. Sometimes I’m in the middle of something and can’t say a lot so I’m glad you said more. Can’t hang out on FR all day.
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