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To: freedomdefender
Well, of course. Now, Freepers, please be careful in all of this discussion not to offend either libertarians or those who believe that nobody has the right to impose their own moral standard on others.

Please, Christians, be understanding of the rest of America which believes that standards and morality are only private matters to decide, and that America’s moral code was never influenced by biblical morality. Please be patient with compatriots who believe that the Separation Clause of the First Amendment means that Christianity cannot be allowed to influence anything in our land at all.

Be longsuffering, please with those who believe that our founding father’s mind set was not heavily that of biblicist Christianity.

7 posted on 08/30/2007 9:54:17 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

What the hell are you talking about?


10 posted on 08/30/2007 9:57:47 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: John Leland 1789

Don’t forget about not offending Bill O’Really...


25 posted on 08/30/2007 10:23:59 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: John Leland 1789

I understand you.


28 posted on 08/30/2007 10:25:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (America.....the beginning of the end as we know it probably)
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To: John Leland 1789

Good. Tell us what sect of Christianity we should base our laws on if we’re going to become a Christian based nation.


46 posted on 08/30/2007 11:05:09 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: John Leland 1789

...”standards and morality are only private matters to decide,...”

No thank you, I have about had enough of everyones “private matters” for one day!


86 posted on 08/31/2007 3:30:23 AM PDT by NemoDog (and Nero fiddled,,,,)
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To: John Leland 1789

Historically, when God divinely disciplines groups, such as nations, He frequently disciplines them because of the believers who have fallen away, disciplining His own children. He might allow an unbelieving nation be destroyed if it falls within His Plan, but generally in this Church Age characterized by His grace, unbelievers are allowed the latitude to discover the consequences of evil on their own and still hang around to discover the significance of what He has already provided. He knows from eternity past who will come to Him and is patient.

For those who of His which rebel, He will discipline.

The really scary thing is if He judges our nation as a group and determines that as a nation we are rebellious and have fallen away, deserving of divine discipline.

A handful of believers might be sufficient to stay His wrath for a while, but if the rest of the nation insists upon rebellion, then it might be best for the nation as a whole to be severely disciplined so that there is no doubt to believers that He is God.

I get more worried when I read about denominations electing homosexual biships and other believers condoning worldly perspectives in their daily thinking, than the behavior of criminals.

FWIW, the Adversary also hates homosexuals, if for no other reason they manifest that even he is unable to control sin.


97 posted on 08/31/2007 6:09:00 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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