Posted on 08/30/2007 7:06:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
RICHMOND -- Virginia Republicans announced legislation Wednesday that would prohibit public colleges and universities from accepting illegal immigrants even if they attended a public high school and were brought to the United States at an early age by their parents.
GOP leaders, who control both houses of the legislature, suggested that some Virginia residents are being denied access to college because too many illegal immigrants are taking available slots.
"If a legal Virginia resident is applying to schools, should they be admitted? Or should that slot be set aside for someone who has arrived here illegally?" asked James K. "Jay" O'Brien Jr. (R-Fairfax), the sponsor of the proposal.
The Republican proposal would also require city and county jails to check a defendant's immigration status and to have at least one person on duty who has been certified by the federal government to detain illegal immigrants until deportation proceedings. It would also routinely deny bail for illegal immigrants charged in a crime and suspend the business licenses of anyone convicted of hiring illegal immigrants.
All 140 seats in the General Assembly are on the ballot this fall...
Claire Guthrie Gastanaga, a lobbyist for immigrant organizations, said the GOP "is taking advantage of a public misconception about the facts" and "exploiting fear and ignorance."...
But the issue of denying a public college education to an illegal immigrant will probably be controversial...Under the GOP proposal, a public college such as Virginia Tech or George Mason University would have to prove an applicant is a legal resident or has a valid student visa...GOP leaders offered statistics showing that 36 percent of applicants to a four-year public college in Virginia were rejected last year....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Indeed. The Republik of Ill-inois outlawed commercial bail bonds long ago. So it’s now one of the nation’s best places to be arrested, post “bail” to the state, and disappear....
We need to quit letting illegals do things to better themselves. They are an underclass, doing jobs Americans won’t do at pay Americans won’t work for. We need more laws to sustain the existing underclass, so we can quit importing more in order to get the jobs done that Americans won’t do. It seems counterproductive to do things that don’t sustain this low-wage, working underclass that Americans supplement with good tax dollars.
Stand up and be counted. Git ‘er done!!
The converse of that is it's almost impossible for IL residents to obtain a Bail Bond in another State. What Bondsman in his or her right mind is going to write a Bond for a resident where it is practically illegal for him to recover a bail jumper?
The result is that many Bondsmen will simply not post Bonds for any IL resident.
Another wonderful result is that the Cook County Sheriff Fugitive has about a 4 year backlog of warrants to serve.
Great system.
L
Amen, me too!
Completely agree - this shouldn’t be seen as “controversial”, it should be seen as “the right thing to do”. The fact that there are still people who can’t get it through their thick skulls that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS ILLEGAL just boggles my mind. They are criminals and they need to leave our country. Anything that aids their existance here, be it an education, renting homes to them or hiring them - those things should all be punishable crimes. Aiding a criminal makes you a criminal - that’s how the legal system works, and the notion that it shouldn’t apply to the crime of illegal immigration is preposterous.
Ditto
Bail bondsmen who write for Illinois residents ask for a lot more collateral, guarantors, etc., but it may take a defendant longer to find one who will bother.
That said, you can locate and cause the arrest of the skip on the basis if the bench warrant issued the moment he became an FTA. The bail bondsman can contact his local DA to arrange extradition and, depending on the state, the wheels may be greased by the fact that the issuance of bail is a legal contract which, under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, must be recognized by Illinois. The bail bond contract should stipulate that the defendant shall upon demand leave the boundaries of the state of Illinois.
Even then, he must be taken to the state line by an Illinois-licensed PI under the supervision of the IL vcourt, which must supervise the entire "ballet." The skip is handed over to the bondsman or his agent just across the state line from IL. Phew!!
FReepmail me if you'd be interested in obtaining such knowledge through real-time, "live" instruction from an long-established school which, ironically, is headquartered in Illinois but rarely offers training seminars therein...
So what? This is not a mob-rule Democracy.
Been there. Done that. Got the T-Shirt.
But try it in Cook County (where about 80% of the absconders are) and you'll be told to drop your warrant at the Sheriffs Fugitive Division. You'll also be told that if you try to serve your own warrant you'll be arrested.
Even then, he must be taken to the state line by an Illinois-licensed PI under the supervision of the IL vcourt, which must supervise the entire "ballet.
That works pretty well downstate but there just ain't much money in it very often.
The skip is handed over to the bondsman or his agent just across the state line from IL
We used to take 'em all the way home.
L
The secret that most LEOs don't know or understand is that bail arrests done in a lawful manner by trained professionals (not one a la "Dog") each year account for some 87% of the bail fugitive recoveries at absolutely no cost to the taxpayer!!. Finally, FWIW, my screen name has nothing to do with pencils, crayons, and paper.... 8~)
Which is precisely why it is expressly verboten here in the Peoples Republic of Illinois.
L
I have two associates who are Chicago/Cook County-based recovery agents. Freepmail me with some sort of bona fides and I’ll put you in contact with them. No strings attached for a fellow hunter...
ping
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-08-29sm.html
>>Both studies found that immigrants used government services at a greater rate than native-born residents did. The New Jersey study found, for instance, that the typical immigrant family received about $4,044 annually in government services, about 11 percent higher than the average native-born family. At the same time, immigrant households paid about 8 percent less in taxes. The net result was that “the average native household generated an annual fiscal surplus of $232” to government, while “the typical foreign household was a net burden of $1,484.” The gap was even wider in California, where immigrant households produced a net deficit of $3,463 each, because so much of that state’s recent immigration had been in the form of low-wage, low-skill workers.
Though the study did not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, it did break down foreign-born households by the regions of the world from which they had come. In both states, the study found the steepest deficit in Latin American households, which in New Jersey consumed 26 percent more in government expenditures than the average native-born family, but paid 38 percent less in taxes. By contrast, immigrant households in New Jersey that hailed from Europe or Canada actually consumed, on average, less in government services than the typical native-born family, and paid nearly as much in taxes. <<
My American four yo grandchildcant get into public school
She was suppose to start last week and her parents have been told she has been set back onto a waiting list..
The illegal alien kids cannot be refused...
We suddenly have a influx of them into our border county..
Please explain this. She is on a waiting list for public kindergarten, or a public-school pre-school program? She can be put on a waiting list, but illegal alien children can’t? How does that work? Why can’t her parents just claim to be illegal, then, and get her in? What school district are you in? Do you have any newspaper stories about this you can link?
My granddaughter who just started the 2nd grade has been in private school since kindergarten. Daughter and hubby recently bought a house in one of the newer (nicer) parts of town and went to enroll the kid in public school. No can do, too many kids. They sat all day waiting to see if a spot would ‘open up’ for her. Nope it didn’t. Daughter had to take her to a differnet school in the same district to get her into school.
The school she could not get into is 1 block from their house, now daughter has to transport her herself, to and from, over 2 miles away.
Daughter said right in front of her was a lady who spoke only Spanish enrolling her kid in 6th grade. They had room for her.
Needless to say my daughter was incensed.
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