Posted on 08/30/2007 5:50:52 AM PDT by George W. Bush
Actually, before you came back to FR, we went to considerable efforts to post bin Laden’s fatwa against the U.S. It seems a lot of people had no idea he declared war on us and authorized jihad on Americans back in the Nineties. It’s a key point to understanding everything that followed and why the Xlintons were criminally derelict in failing to apprehend him when they were offered Osama on a platter, for the taking. It surprised me that so many people didn’t know.
Yep.
(btw, just because I wasn’t posting here doesn’t mean I didn’t ‘check in’ and read)
Ron Paul - the right man for the last century.
Yep, haven’t seen anything like it since Dean in 03
Paul’s campaign is not comparable to Dean’s.
(chuckle)
It will be fun to bring this comment up in seven months.
Will the leftist supporters rip RP apart when they find out he doesn’t “do” national disasters? Or will they stand with him on principle.
So the thousands of volunteers working on behalf of Dr. Paul all summer...who are they then? They can't be political junkies, because the political junkies are supposedly waiting for Fred to announce or already supporting Rudy McRomney. The grassroots for Paul is there, dirtboy. To say otherwise is to remain in self-denial.
Unfortunately for the other GOP candidates, Fred has name recognition, gravitas, charisma, and the ability and willingness to discuss the tough issues (such as entitlements) with the people in a manner they can relate to without talking down to them. September is going to be a very interesting month politically.
He does, and there's no denying that. In fact, Fred Thompson's views of government is similiar to Paul's, sans the foreign policy. I have no problem if Fred is nominated. As for the thousands of grassroots for Paul, they might see a problem with Fred. They see him as an insider, they'll look at his Senate record, his lobbying record, and they'll just shrug and continue supporting Paul. Which means that Paul will go deep in the primaries and Fred would have no choice but to reach out to Paul's supporters - maybe reassure them that there is no NAU and let Paul speak at the convention - and he'll have the coalition to defeat the Democrat.
Ding-Ding, we have a winner.
jw
Boy, talk about circular logic. You can do better than that.
The grassroots for Paul is there, dirtboy. To say otherwise is to remain in self-denial.
Where did I say otherwise? However, the grassroots, by definition, are people who are regularly involved in politics.
Which means that Paul will go deep in the primaries and Fred would have no choice but to reach out to Paul's supporters
I'm sorry, but Dean pulled Kerry too far leftwards in 2004 and Kerry was unable to get back to the center by November. If Fred is smart, he won't chase Paulites into their version of the universe. Specifically, the anti-war universe.
Thanks.
Its kinda sad pointing out the exceedingly obvious gets a ‘win’ for ya on a political board....(chuckle)
But I’ll take it.
Paul's not spending any of the money that Romney or Giliuani are. The guy's campaign is ENTIRELY grassroots. There's no big-money corporations or powerful suits pulling the strings at all.
Sorry, that dog won’t hunt. You can only claim this till the first primary...then you’ll find yourself, just as Deaniacs found themselves, trying to explain away the lack of votes.
Sorry, but that belief in the Constitution and what it meant to be an American before the socialists ruined it is a mutha. Everybody from all types of political stripes are supporting Paul because of this. This is a movement here, Paul may lose but it's 1964 again when Goldwater lost and a new generation of conservatives rose up and seized the mantle.
Goldwater actually won primaries.
Ron Paul can’t, won’t, and nobody in their right mind would even attempt the comparision til he does.
Which of course leads us full circle back to ‘fringe groups supporting Ron Paul’.
Ping me after the first primary.
Here's the Ron Paul approach to Katrina and other natural disasters, and I wholeheartedly agree with it.
The best way to rebuild New Orleans is to provide entrepreneurial incentives for people and businesses willing to do the hard work involved. I voted for several bills last fall that provide some measure of tax relief for Katrina victims, but more could be done. Imagine the revitalization that would occur if Congress declared New Orleans a federal tax-free zone for 5 or 10 years.
No circular logic. You said the only people paying attention now were political junkies. I pointed out to you that Paul's campaign is being conducted by thousands of energetic supporters who likely never participated in politics or were turned off by politics before. If they're political junkies or operatives, they're doing a helluva acting job.
Where did I say otherwise? However, the grassroots, by definition, are people who are regularly involved in politics.
Not in Paul's case it isn't. Read the article. It's folks who feel that they're alienated from the political process, and they found someone they can relate to. Hence the support for Paul.
I'm sorry, but Dean pulled Kerry too far leftwards in 2004 and Kerry was unable to get back to the center by November. If Fred is smart, he won't chase Paulites into their version of the universe. Specifically, the anti-war universe
He (Fred) doesn't have to change his war stance. He can just say he opposes a long-term commitment to Iraq but the troops need to stay for now and fight. That'll peel off a chunk of the Paul supporters should he win the nomination. He should also address the NAU thingy.
And it's high time the GOP let Paul speak at the convention. Let him give the keynote speech, let him have his moment in the sun and give this patriot the tribute he deserves. If they can give Gerald Ford a video tribute they can give Paul one.
And your proof that these people have never been involved in politics before is?????
It's folks who feel that they're alienated from the political process, and they found someone they can relate to.
Yeah, sure. Just like those serial callers to C-Span who say "I'm a lifelong Republican, BUT..."
And it's high time the GOP let Paul speak at the convention.
Fat chance.
No it's because he's a shrewd campaigner. He has the internet & volunteers working for him. He's not blowing cash for votes like your buddy Romney is.
The core of Paul's support is anti-war. You are the exception in that regard. Fred ain't even going anywhere near there.
Where's the proof that anti-war kooks and anti-government anarchists are supporting Paul? I know you probably didn't insinuate this, but it's SOP for the Paul-bashers to say it. If you don't believe that ordinary Americans shut out of the political process are supporting Paul, that's your problem, not mine.
Yeah, sure. Just like those serial callers to C-Span who say "I'm a lifelong Republican, BUT..."
Wrong. You got a genuine movement here for Paul.
Fat chance.
So you have no problem then if Paul's supporters stay home or write-in Paul's name for President and probably throw the election to Hillary. I'm telling you now the GOP better work with Paul. Trust me, they're going to need his support.
I predict he'll go deep in the primaries, to the chagrin of the GOP establishment.
Sorry, but most of Paul's support is anti-war at its core. Dean dragged Kerry too far leftwards in 2004. Fred ain't gonna let Paul drag him too far in an anti-war direction to woo the anti-war crowd. So who are the anti-war types going to vote for? Hillary? Third party? Fred would lose more votes going after them then he would gain with their support.
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