Debating Ron Paul

National Ledger ^ | Aug 29, 2007 | JB Williams

[George W. Bush]

The war on drugs in America is not a failure. It just isn’t over...

Hmmm...The Xlinton attack on Bosnia/Kosovo in favor of Muslim narcoterrorists and against the Christians there who were suffering gang rapes and murder and persecution was carried out with the full public support of both George W. and McStain (many threads on it here at FR). We remain a key player in the area under U.N. auspices. This area is directly connected to the heroin trade and is the processing and distribution center for (wait, you can see it coming) the poppy farmers of Afghanistan, a country we control but show no interest whatsoever in destroying their poppy crops which will become the heroin sold in Europe and America.

I guess if heroin is Good and hemp is Utter Evil, then the War On Drugs is a blazing success. Regardless, when the U.S. absolutely controls the source of the poppies and is capable of exerting control over the processing/distribution centers in the Balkans, I don't see how you can claim there is any very serious War On Drugs being conducted.

In addition to leaving the heroin trade completely intact, we have aided and abetted the persecution of Christians in the Balkans just as our toppling of Saddam and the installation of a government in Iraq under Islam as the state religion has led directly to the persecution of Christians throughout Iraq (except the Kurdish north where they are well-treated generally). However, the biggest victims of Kosovo and Iraq are their Christian populations. And the heroin trade from Afghanistan via Kosovo is unmolested, last year producing the largest heroin yield in history. That's one impressive War On (Some) Drugs, all right.

[mnehring]

Because the bill that Paul voted against specifically referenced securing the border against bringing in drugs illegally and terrorists coming over. This bill was not in reference to making drugs legal or illegal, it was about closing the border.

Even if drugs were legal, the bill would still apply because congress has a constitutional duty to regulate commerce and repel invasion.

[PlainOleAmerican]

How about Thompson/Hunter?

[PlainOleAmerican]

sitting out has a very similar effect to voting third party, no?

[PlainOleAmerican]

Did anyone suggest the war on drugs was any more seriously fought than the war on terror?

Both wars are worth fighting. But only if we get serious about winning...

[OCCASparky]

A friend and fellow writer recently pointed out that libertarians are actually just social liberals who don’t want any of their money used to fund the natural consequences of a socially liberal society. They pretend to be conservatives, when all they really are is money conscious liberals with an isolationist view of the world they live in.

That passage right there hits it out of the park farther than any Barroid-juiced ball.

[George W. Bush]

Let’s see what Ronald Reagan had to say about US involvement and intervention in Middle East holy wars and civil wars, shall we?

Just don't post what President Reagan wrote in his diary about George W. on May 17, 1986. LOL!

[radioman]

sitting out has a very similar effect to voting third party, no?

That may be true but it's still a loser for the RP. You aren't going to bring back libertarians by attacking the only Republican they like.
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[George W. Bush]

Obviously, you have NOT done your homework on this writer...or much of anything else. www.JB-Williams.com

A tired partisan hack who has skewed his little hit-piece shamefully.

I'll take Walter Williams any day. In addition to being a favorite fill-in for Rush, he's a great Austrian economist and has broadly sound conservative views.

And he has endorsed Ron Paul. Ron Paul has named him as the kind of person he would select as VP.

Walter E. Williams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[PlainOleAmerican]

Truer words have never been spoken!

[ex-snook]

70% wins elections. Even though you think it’s ‘wrong’. ‘Wrong’ is in the eye of the beholder. 70% thinks they are ‘right’. That’s what wins in a democracy, like it or not.

[PlainOleAmerican]

You also can’t bring them back by allowing them to foolishly follow a liberal isolationist into the tank...

But your point is well made and worth consideration.

[radioman]

Thank you.

[PlainOleAmerican]

another wiki dependent...

Your liberal pettycoat is showing...

[George W. Bush]

Did anyone suggest the war on drugs was any more seriously fought than the war on terror?

Is it possible that you'll actually connect the dots...

Both wars are worth fighting. But only if we get serious about winning...

<sigh>

Nope.

[SJackson]

Of course, in this case, there is a really good chance Paul will take more votes from Hillary than any other candidate. After all, Code Pink, MoveOn.org and DU have already defined him as the real anti-war candidate...

He stated in his interview with Medved he won't run third party. In that case he'll take no votes from Hillary. And the moveon and codepink folk won't be supporting a Republican candidate, so he's a non-factor in the general election.

[OCCASparky]

Here in NH Ron Paul is the only candidate with any real grassroots support.

I believe the term you're looking for is astroturfing.

Che-Porter was a grassroots candidate too--look where she got us. Paul cannot and will not win in NH. Thank God we don't have an open primary.

[PlainOleAmerican]

70% of Palestinians elected terror organization Hamas to head their country and now they are trying to fight their way back out of that corner...

Americans are free to do the same if they like...

[PlainOleAmerican]

Need a drawing?

[PlainOleAmerican]

If these folks throw enough money at him, he’ll change his mind about a third party run...and these folks have money and they ain’t happy with Hillary or any other Democrat who failed to pull out of Iraq the moment they took control of congress.