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To: CJ Wolf
Um...it would be easier to go along with your point if you weren't blaming terrorists for several things that were not caused by terrorists. Three of them weren't even caused by violence.

American Airlines flight 587

Oil refinery explosions

2003 blackout

Appalachian School Shooting

I am aware of no evidence that these incidents were caused by terrorists, and in the case of 587 there is conclusive evidence that the cause of the crash was overuse of the rudder in response to wake turbulence. Indeed, it's so conclusive that American and Airbus are fighting over it in court. The Appalachian shooter may have been a muslim (I'm unsure), but neither his attack, behavior, motives or statement directly after the attack...

“I had to do it. I didn’t know what else to do. I had nowhere else to go.”

...fit at all with a terror attack. Then there's the fact that he's still alive. What Muslim terrorist faces two guys armed with handguns and surrenders instead of shooting it out so that he'll die for Allah?

Now, let's get back to my points about "inspiration" and illegal aliens:

DC Sniper--Americans with no direct AQ connection "inspired" by bin Laden.

LAX shooting--No AQ connection, guy was here legally because of a Green Card lottery

OKU Bombing--If this was a terror attack (disputed) it was carried out by an American citizen without any help from any terror organization and I can't figure a Muslim terrorist would leave "None of you are worth living with. You can all kiss my ass" as his suicide note.

Jewish Federation Shootings--An American citizen, no AQ connection, "inspired" by Israel bombing her enemies...has Ron Paul got a plan to run Israel's military?

Virginia Tech shooting--See how nice I am? I'm spotting you one you missed. Well, the shooter was here legally since he was a small child, and he was not connected to any terror organizations. Another case of "inspiration."

So, you said there were 18 attacks, and you've provided 10. Between the incidents that weren't terror attacks and the incidents that were carried out by Americans or legal immigrants, you're down to two terror attacks, only one of which (anthrax) was arguably an operation by AQ or another terror group.

Surely you have some more attacks to list, and surely you have better evidence than this that Dr. Paul can stop all the terror attacks that Dubya is letting go on, right?

kick out the illegals, arm the American citizens and fight terrorism the right way.

Please elaborate on what is meant by "the right way," what is meant by "arming the American citizens" (we're currently the most well-armed country in the world) and I'm sure you'll tell me why killing terrorists where we can find them overseas is not "the right way" and turning Iraq over to Iran is "the right way."

107 posted on 08/30/2007 8:46:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well for one, I said we were told they were not terror related. You can certianly debate it, I gave you only ten (BTW there are many Oil refinery explosions, so that really doesn’t count as just one) because I was tired last night. But you get my gist. If you want to look up the many more suspected terror attacks that aren’t “Terror Related” I’d refer you to the threat matrix threads. There are tons more.

There are many Muslim terrorist that surrender, look at gitmo for example. And I don’t think you have to be in direct link with a terrorist org to be a terrorist.

The right way is not what we are doing right now. We’ve let Iran take footholds in iraq already. Maliki is an Iranian agent with ties to Iran and Syria. We let Iran send arms, intel and fighters into iraq similar to what the Pakistanis did to the soviets in the 80s.

The right way in my opinion is to go on a nation-leveling adventure and take out any government such as Iran’s and leave. If we get bogged down in the mideast in a single place trying to nation build it costs to much in blood and money, the debate of attacking Al Queda in Iraq is moot, they will never stop coming this is the lesson the soviets learned. IMHO we should be on the offensive and take out the rest of the axis of evil in a nation leveling exercise. Now granted, this is not Paul’s opinion, but I like his opinion better then what we got and what we will have if either of the mainstream candidates get in office. Which is more of the same. If we aren’t going to do it right we shouldn’t do it at all. If we are not going to do it right and not at all, we should secure our borders and respond to direct threats. Paul says he’d still pursue Bin Laden, which is more then Bush has done.


108 posted on 08/30/2007 9:42:49 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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