Posted on 08/27/2007 6:18:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
Putting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a tight political position, the state Assembly voted Monday to place a measure on California's Feb. 5 ballot urging President Bush to immediately withdraw American troops from Iraq.
The 43-32 roll call left the proposal one step from Schwarzenegger's desk. It was sent back to the Senate, which approved a slightly different version of the bill in June.
Final approval by the Senate would send the bill to the Republican governor, who could risk angering members of his own party by signing it and putting it on the presidential primary ballot or veto the bill and draw the wrath of the war's opponents.
The bill, by Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, asks voters if Bush should "achieve the immediate, complete, safe and orderly withdrawal of United States forces" from Iraq.
Schwarzenegger has tried to steer a middle course on the issue, saying he supports the troops and the war on terror but also backs a "timetable for withdrawal."
A spokesman for the governor, Aaron McLear, said Schwarzenegger had not taken a position on the bill.
"We're aware of it," McLear said. "We have not reviewed the final version. We will review it and obviously take a position and take action on it."
The Assembly vote split mainly along party lines, with Democrats arguing that the invasion of Iraq had been a disaster that had cost the United States dearly in lives and dollars.
"If silence equals consent, we cannot remain silent anymore," said Assemblywoman Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley. "We need to give the citizens of California a concrete opportunity to express their hopes."
Assemblyman Jared Huffman, D-San Rafael, said the decision to invade Iraq was a "terrible mistake, one that's making our country weaker, not stronger - one that's empowering terrorists."
But Republicans argued that an immediate withdrawal would threaten U.S. troops, encourage terrorism and trigger more violence in the region.
"Yes I want to withdraw from Iraq," said Assemblyman Paul Cook, R-Yuca Valley. "But I want to do it so we do not endanger those troops and ... embolden certain elements."
The version approved in the Assembly would ask voters the following question: "Shall President George W. Bush, in support of the men and women serving in the Armed Forces of the United States, end the United States occupation of Iraq and achieve the immediate, complete, safe and orderly withdrawal of United States forces; and, further, shall President George W. Bush and the Congress provide the necessary diplomatic and nonmilitary assistance to promote peace and stability in Iraq and the Middle East?"
Some Republicans charged that the bill was a cynical attempt by Democrats to boost the turnout of voters who also might support an initiative to modify legislators' term limits. The term-limits initiative, which is intended for the Feb. 5 ballot, would allow Perata and dozens of other lame-duck lawmakers to run for re-election next year.
"This is a political poll being done for political reasons at a politically expedient time," said Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Palm Desert.
But Perata said he doubted that an advisory vote on the Iraq war would translate into votes for the term limits initiative.
"I don't know if anything is going to help that," he told reporters.
While the Assembly was debating whether to pull out of Iraq, the Senate approved a resolution urging the president to stop sending National Guard troops to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The measure's author, Sen. Carole Migden, D-San Francisco, said members of the National Guard are needed at home.
"We are plagued by earthquakes and wildfires" in California, Migden said. "We don't have adequate resources, personnel."
Read the measures, SB924 and SJR10, at
http://www.senate.ca.gov/
The measure’s author, Sen. Carole Migden, D-San Francisco, said members of the National Guard are needed at home.
“We are plagued by earthquakes and wildfires” in California, Migden said. “We don’t have adequate resources, personnel.”
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Thank you, Ms. Speedy&Reckless Driver, for that asstutin’ assessment.
A rather presumptuous self-important bunch of rat-bastards aren’t they?
LOL, Norm!
Cali govt is an embarrassment no matter how you look at it... EOF.
I’m not surprised. Californiastan has its own imported insurgency, which it also refuses to address. No wonder they can’t be bothered with Iraq’s.
This is demagoguery at its most deplorable. This will accomplish nothing good, and perhaps make the troops’ job more difficult.
Schwarzenegger has caved in to the Democrats too many times. Hopefully, he’ll refuse to go along this time.
“California Assembly votes to put Iraq pullout measure on ballot”
These jackasses DO realize that they are NOT in charge of the U.S. don’t they? It’s like the little county or town councils in socialist blue areas voting for impeachment of the President.
File under “Too big for their britches”
What a freakin bunch of whining traitors.
Well, Perhaps we should let’em? (Never really liked the Giants, Kings, or Raiders all that much anyway)
Time to pull out of Kalifornia.
If presented - this will be SchwarzenKennedy's shark to jump.
Somebody needs to let these people know that the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. They must not have gotten that message.
What morons.
BILL NUMBER: SB 924 AMENDED
BILL TEXT
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY AUGUST 23, 2007
AMENDED IN SENATE JUNE 4, 2007
AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 15, 2007
AMENDED IN SENATE APRIL 9, 2007
INTRODUCED BY Senator Perata
(Principal coauthors: Senators Migden and Romero)
( Principal coauthor: Assembly Member
Leno )
(Coauthors: Senators Corbett, Kuehl, Oropeza, Ridley-Thomas,
Scott, Steinberg, and Wiggins)
(Coauthors: Assembly Members Dymally
and Eng Brownley,
DeSaulnier, Dymally, Eng, Hancock,
Karnette, Levine, Nunez,
and Saldana )
FEBRUARY 23, 2007
An act relating to Iraq, and calling an election, to take effect
immediately.
LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST
SB 924, as amended, Perata. Iraq war: advisory election.
(1) This bill would require the Secretary of State to
call an election , notwithstanding specified
provisions of law, that an election be called for the purpose
of placing before the voters of the state an advisory question asking
whether the President should end the United States occupation of
Iraq, and whether the President and the Congress should provide the
necessary diplomatic and nonmilitary assistance to promote peace and
stability in Iraq and the Middle East. The bill would require the
Secretary of State to communicate the results of this election to the
President and to consolidate this election with the statewide
presidential primary election of February 5, 2008. By increasing the
duties of local elections officials, the addition of an election to
place an advisory question on the ballot would impose a
state-mandated local program.
(2) The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse
local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates
determines that the bill contains costs mandated by the state,
reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to these
statutory provisions.
(3) This bill would declare that it is to take effect immediately
as an act calling for an election.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. The Legislature finds and declares all of the
following:
(a) Whereas, The United States is now into the fifth year of a war
in Iraq with no end in sight; and
(b) Whereas, On May 1, 2003, President Bush declared the "end of
major combat operations" in Iraq, yet tragic military and civilian
casualties and injuries in Iraq continue, with the fourth year of
this conflict resulting in the greatest number of casualties and
injuries; and
(c) Whereas, Despite the deaths of nearly 3,500
more than 3,700 American men and women in our Armed
Forces, and the injury of more than 25,000
27,000 Americans, President George W. Bush has refused to begin
a safe and orderly withdrawal of American soldiers from Iraq; and
(d) Whereas, Civilian casualties in Iraq have been significant,
with more than 64,000 70,000 civilian
Iraqi men, women, and children killed, and many more wounded or
displaced from their homes; and
(e) Whereas, Hostilities in Iraq have continued for more than four
years, requiring the expenditure of more than $350,000,000,000, an
amount that has forced the federal government to devote fewer
resources to properly funding schools, health systems, homeland
security, and other vital domestic needs; and
(f) Whereas, Three hundred sixty-two More
than 400 Californians have been among the service members
killed in the Iraq conflict, more than any other state, and thousands
more Californians, including more than 800 members of California's
National Guard, remain deployed in Iraq and at grave risk; and
(g) Whereas, The widely respected and bipartisan Iraq Study Group
recommended that the United States withdraw its Armed Forces from
Iraq by early 2008; and
(h) Whereas, In spite of a growing consensus among experienced and
respected military officials, diplomats, scholars, and the American
public that the time has come to begin the safe and orderly
withdrawal of United States Armed Forces, the Bush Administration has
chosen instead to jeopardize the safety of additional personnel with
an ill-conceived "surge", an increase in the number of troops
deployed to Iraq; and
(i) Whereas, Despite the best efforts and tremendous sacrifices
made by service members and their families, the continued presence of
United States Armed Forces will not lead to peace and stability in
Iraq or the Middle East.
(j) Therefore, in support of the men and women serving in the
United States Armed Forces in Iraq, this act provides the people of
California the opportunity to voice their heart felt concerns and to
be heard at the ballot on this critical issue.
SEC. 2. (a) The Secretary of State
shall call an election Notwithstanding Section 9040 or
12000 of the Elections Code or any other provision of law, an
election is hereby called for the purpose of placing before the
voters of this state the following advisory question:
Shall President George W. Bush, in support of the men and women
serving in the Armed Forces of the United States, end the United
States occupation of Iraq and immediately begin the safe
achieve the immediate, complete, safe, and
orderly withdrawal of United States forces; and, further, shall
President George W. Bush and the Congress provide the necessary
diplomatic and nonmilitary assistance to promote peace and stability
in Iraq and the Middle East?
(b) Upon certification of the election, the Secretary of State
shall communicate to President George W. Bush the results of the
election asking the question set forth in subdivision (a).
(c) The provisions of the Elections Code that apply to the
preparation of ballot measures and ballot materials at a statewide
election shall apply to the measure submitted pursuant to this
section.
(d) Notwithstanding Section 9040 of the Elections Code, the
Secretary of State shall consolidate the election provided for in
subdivision (a) with the statewide presidential primary election to
be held on February 5, 2008.
SEC. 3. If the Commission on State Mandates determines that this
act contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local
agencies and school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant
to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of
the Government Code.
SEC. 4. This act calls an election within the meaning of Article
IV of the Constitution and shall go into immediate effect.
Arnie is reaping the seeds he sowed by snuggling up to the left coasts dems!
“Oh what a tangled web we weave!, When first we practice to deceive!” By some smart guy!
Please note - this drunken, lesbian leftist who plays bumper cars on our freeways in a State provided SUV, made no mention of the illegals streaming across the border into the sanctuary city of San Fransicko.
This dippy lesbian apparently doesn't know she and her kind will be among the first beheaded or stoned by the Islamists she refuses to resist...
Actually, there are a few upsides to Islamic domination!
Then California might be the first state annexed by the Iranian-Chinese-Russian coalition.
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