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Falcons Are Better Off, But Does Michael Vick Really Deserve Prison Time?
North Star Writers Group ^ | August 27, 2007 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 08/27/2007 5:06:22 AM PDT by Dan Calabrese

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To: Senator Goldwater

Obviously.


81 posted on 08/27/2007 1:54:56 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: HIDEK6
That was true in years past, but this year, you'd be smart to draft him onto your Fantasy Team.

So, why is McNabb a good pick this year. We're drafting next Thursday, so I have to start my research.

82 posted on 08/27/2007 1:56:48 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: gridlock
The past two years he's been hampered by an ankle injury. This year he's as close to 100% as you can be without saying you're 100%, and he's had two years of maturing under his belt.

He also understands the game and the position.

He's on my draft board right after Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

83 posted on 08/27/2007 2:01:08 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Senator Goldwater
Not in the court of public opinion, which is where is toughest rahabilitation will be.

Public opinion will be a difficult hurdle, but so will the NFL Commissoner. When you have someone like Vick being a prime mover/funder of an illegal gambling activity, it brings into question how much the integrity of the NFL may be compromised. Vick's association with other gamblers and his access to inside information on the NFL, does raise questions as to whether more than just dogs were involved. It also made Vick subject to blackmail. Even the appearance of an impropriety is enough to get him banned for life. I hope he is.

84 posted on 08/27/2007 2:09:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: HIDEK6

I’m drafting #6, So I’ll probably be picking up Manning in the first round, with all RBs going 1-5. That’s the way it works in our league.


85 posted on 08/27/2007 2:10:52 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: gridlock

You’re going to draft a QB in round 1?


86 posted on 08/27/2007 2:14:11 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Dan Calabrese

Vick can always go into TV commentary.

Wait a minute, that requires reading the teleprompter.
Never mind.


87 posted on 08/27/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: HIDEK6

Yeah. I figure that after the top five RBs are gone, #6 and #11 are going to be pretty much the same. But Peyton Manning is much better than the next available QB.


88 posted on 08/27/2007 2:33:00 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: Dan Calabrese

>>As far as I’m concerned, the dog-fighting scandal was one of the best things that could have happened to the Falcons.<<

This is not an opinion shared by people actually in Atlanta.

>>New Falcons ticket buyers ready to sell

By Jeff Schultz | Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 08:14 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Jeff Schultz

On July 6, the same day federal investigators were back in Surry County, Va., digging up Michael Vick’s little yard of horrors, ESPN erroneously reported the Falcons’ quarterback would not be indicted.

On July 7, Orlando Daniels of Acworth, facing a deadline and buoyed by the report, submitted his deposit for two club-level season tickets at $1,390.

Ten days later, Vick was indicted.

Ever feel like you just paid a premium for drilling rights, only to hit sand? Evidence is all over the Internet. Since Vick’s tenure with the team unofficially ended with news of a plea agreement, fans have flooded eBay, Craigslist and StubHub with their season tickets. The Web suddenly looks like a surf shop in Des Moines.

“Dude, there are people selling season tickets on the lower level, 50-yard line for below face value,” said Daniels, who had been on a waiting list for tickets for three years. “That’s unheard of in any market.”<<


89 posted on 08/27/2007 2:35:23 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: Dan Calabrese
Animals != Humans

Animal abuse != Human abuse

90 posted on 08/27/2007 2:36:14 PM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: gridlock

Jeffrey Dahmer used to kill animals and play with the bones when he was a child...It may seem small to you, but cruelty like that is indicative of a greater issue.


91 posted on 08/27/2007 2:39:20 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I never said it was a small issue. But I don’t think that the fact that somebody may commit a crime in the future is a reason to arrest them today.


92 posted on 08/27/2007 2:49:17 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Jeffrey Dahmer used to kill animals and play with the bones when he was a child...It may seem small to you, but cruelty like that is indicative of a greater issue.


Exactly.


93 posted on 08/27/2007 4:01:50 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: gridlock

People get arrested and prosecuted for starving their livestock. Is this any different? (Other than it’s even more dimented and sick than just plain neglect.)


94 posted on 08/27/2007 4:56:19 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: All
And Keith Olberman's little pro-Vick - he's already suffered so much crap is just that CRAP. Let Vick rot in hell forever.

Or....just put him in the middle of an arena and let police dogs have at him!

95 posted on 08/27/2007 5:47:34 PM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: gridlock
Last year our league drafted running backs through round 3. Peyton didn't go until round 4.

Our team loaded up on running backs and didn't pay much attention to QBs, so we got stuch with Mark Brunell and Philip Rivers.

We later dumped Mark Brunell and picked up Rex Grossman who did OK until they played Arizona.

this year, we're still planning to load up on RBs and maybe get a QB in the fourth round.

I suppose it depends on how many QBs they let you start.

Last year it was 2, so we waited too long.

THis year it will only be one, so we figure that fourth round will be right.

96 posted on 08/27/2007 8:53:33 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

A lot of it depends on your scoring system, of course. Some scoring systems really favor the RB, particularly ones with yardage points.


97 posted on 08/27/2007 9:57:59 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: gridlock
farmers used to and probably still do drown kittens that are born that are not needed nor wanted....

but still, that is not the same as torturing animals for vengeance...

98 posted on 08/28/2007 1:41:08 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SmoothTalker
its whites that buy the jerseys and support black athletes.....its mostly whites in the stands cheering for them.....

yet somehow, this Vick business is a "racial" thing......

99 posted on 08/28/2007 1:42:26 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Remember how Larry Johnson said that black athletes were slaves? If thats true then I want to be a slave. Never knew slaves were among the richest men in America.


100 posted on 08/28/2007 5:00:32 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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