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To: usmcobra

“That’s a pretty Big “ALL”. Have you canvased all living Marine Officers and enlisted men on active duty and non active as to their opinions. “

Don’t be absurd - I’m talking of those involved in this case.

“You used the word engaged meaning in this case attacking,”

No, I used the word engaged in the way you defined it upthread - “You do understand the term “engagement” as applied to rules of? If you are fired upon you may engage that target with deadly force “

I don’t see anything that says they were fired upon by anyone in that house. If they WERE being fired upon from that house, I would suspect they would not simply walk up and knock on the door.

“I’d say that under those circumstances they were justified to attack these houses where the insurgents were hiding in.”

Well that’s the key isn’t it ? If he was being attacked from those houses there would be no question. He is on trial as it seems that he simply decided to kill everyone around and clear the nearest houses ... shoot first and ask questions later.

This account - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/10/AR2006061001129_3.html - tells a different story regarding house 1 & 2 , where noone SAW any insurgents go into house 2 ( the Knock and Shoot ) nor does it say they received any fire from it. But they did kill everyone they found in it.

“Although it was almost immediately apparent to the Marines that the people dead in the room ( house 1 ) were men, women and children — most likely civilians — they also noticed a back door ajar and believed that insurgents had slipped through to a house nearby, Puckett said. The Marines stealthily moved to the second house, kicking in the door, killing one man inside and then using a frag grenade and more gunfire to clear another room full of people, he said.

Wuterich, not having found the insurgents, ...’”

“Later on that day during this battle when some of these same insurgents were surrounded in a near by house less than a mile from the original attack, “

Same insurgents ? Thought the ones in house 3 & 4 were the “same insurgents” ?

Taking fire from a house and calling in an airstrike is much different then seeing a back door ajar and deciding that everyone in the nearest house should be killed.


60 posted on 08/31/2007 6:18:46 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

PS. You’re judging the actions of Marines based on MSM reporting. That’s a big mistake and is leading you down the Murtha road of prejudging their guilt.


63 posted on 08/31/2007 7:33:03 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RS

You do realize that those of us intensely following this case are actually reading the transcripts of the hearings instead of the drivel for the masses from Al Rueters or The Washington Post.

I just got done watching the Anvil of God on CNN, and quite frankly You should have, it would have perhaps given you a whole different take on The Rules of Engagement and how our Marines carry themselves in battle. It was astonishing that CNN finally showed it.


65 posted on 08/31/2007 8:24:30 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: RS

How many drugs DID you take?

He is on trial because two insurgents in Iraq were working with one at the NY Times.


75 posted on 09/01/2007 10:43:59 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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