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Hog Futures Surge on News Of China Deal
the wall street journal ^ | 08.25.07 | walters, theopolis; thacker, curt

Posted on 08/25/2007 8:46:10 PM PDT by ken21

Chicago Mercantile Exchange lean-hog futures rose on news of a 60-million-pound pork deal made between a major Chinese trading company and Smithfield Foods Inc.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: blueeardpigs; china; commodities; hogs
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doesn't say who's doing what to whom.
1 posted on 08/25/2007 8:46:11 PM PDT by ken21
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To: ken21

Lord, if Smithfield starts buying pork from China, there goes my Thanksgiving and Christmas home being bought from them.

I’ll find another company Smithfield, I mean it. If I want melamine on my plate, I get my God daughters Barbie food.


2 posted on 08/25/2007 8:48:34 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ken21

Blue Horseshoe loves Miss Piggy.


3 posted on 08/25/2007 8:50:31 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: ken21

If there’s a 60-million pork deal in the works, I’m guessing Murtha’s behind it.


4 posted on 08/25/2007 8:53:10 PM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: All

“the deal specifies that the product must be ractopamine-free.”


5 posted on 08/25/2007 8:53:32 PM PDT by ken21
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To: Shadowstrike

If pork futures are (up) as a result of this deal, would that not indicate that the deal is not just another import of cheap stuff — but might be in fact a significant export deal?

China’s been having some problems recently with hogs.

Could be, we’re actually selling something for a change?


6 posted on 08/25/2007 8:56:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

see #1.

i had questions.


7 posted on 08/25/2007 8:59:23 PM PDT by ken21
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No kidding ...

CHENGDU, China, Aug. 9 — A highly infectious swine virus is sweeping China’s
pig population, driving up pork prices and creating fears of a global
pandemic among domesticated pigs.

Animal virus experts say Chinese authorities are playing down the gravity
and spread of the disease.

So far, the mysterious virus — believed to cause an unusually deadly form of
an infection known as blue-ear pig disease — has spread to 25 of this
country’s 33 provinces and regions, prompting a pork shortage and the
strongest inflation in China in a decade.


8 posted on 08/25/2007 8:59:52 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Shadowstrike

Trichinosis is our friend.


9 posted on 08/25/2007 9:01:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If pork futures are (up) as a result of this deal, would that not indicate that the deal is not just another import of cheap stuff — but might be in fact a significant export deal?
China’s been having some problems recently with hogs.
Could be, we’re actually selling something for a change?

I believe you are correct. It is my understanding that more U.S. pork will be exported to China.

10 posted on 08/25/2007 9:01:28 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Exactly what I was thinking.


11 posted on 08/25/2007 9:01:47 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Could be, we’re actually selling something for a change?

Yup. We sell to China, supply to the US decreases, so prices go up. Hence, futures go up.
12 posted on 08/25/2007 9:01:58 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

For a change? Where have you been?


13 posted on 08/25/2007 9:04:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: July 4th

Yup, there goes the low cost of Pork.


14 posted on 08/25/2007 9:05:19 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 1rudeboy

For a change? Where have you been?

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Walmart...

Nothing American-made there. That’s for sure.


15 posted on 08/25/2007 9:08:02 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: rockinqsranch

I guess I’ll have to keep hunting wild pigs. The big old boars aren’t too tasty however.


16 posted on 08/25/2007 9:08:53 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Try checking our export figures instead. You might be surprised. Heck, if you get your data from Wal-Mart, you will be surprised.

By the way this sounds more like a purchase than a sale.

17 posted on 08/25/2007 9:11:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Our monthly trade balance with China is approximately 20 billion US dollars.

For comparison purposes, according to Fortune that’s more than the total shareholders’ equity, of Valero Energy!

Half of the Stockholders equity of Hewlett Packard.

Every month. Out the window. Or actually, off to China. Along with all the associated manufacturing capability, intellectual property rights, staff, ownership. You name it. Gone.

Yeah, I’m surprized. Why aren’t you?

PS: Got an iPod? Think those “American” iPods are made in America?

Or your American computer?

Or pretty much anything anymore?


18 posted on 08/25/2007 9:22:26 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No doubt it’s a sale to them, not a purchase.

They buy alot of what you might call the secondary markets in live production. Chicken feet and wings, beef feet and tails and organs, etc. It is a significant market.


19 posted on 08/25/2007 9:27:28 PM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ok, so you want to change the subject to the trade deficit. Happens all the time when I ask about U.S. exports.


20 posted on 08/25/2007 9:43:14 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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