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ACLU sues DEA on behalf of truck whose money was seized
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 24, 2007 | The Associated Press

Posted on 08/25/2007 12:32:37 PM PDT by microgood

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A trucker has sued the Drug Enforcement Administration, seeking to get back nearly $24,000 seized by DEA agents earlier this month at a weigh station on U.S. 54 in New Mexico north of El Paso, Texas.

Anastasio Prieto of El Paso gave a state police officer at the weigh station permission to search the truck to see if it contained "needles or cash in excess of $10,000," according to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the federal lawsuit Thursday.

Prieto told the officer he didn't have any needles but did have $23,700.

Officers took the money and turned it over to the DEA. DEA agents photographed and fingerprinted Prieto over his objections, then released him without charging him with anything.

Border Patrol agents searched his truck with drug-sniffing dogs, but found no evidence of illegal substances, the ACLU said.

The lawsuit alleges the defendants violated Prieto's right to be free of unlawful search and seizure by taking his money without probable cause and by fingerprinting and photographing him.

"Mere possession of approximately $23,700 does not establish probable cause for a search or seizure," the lawsuit said.

It said Prieto pulled into the weigh station about 10:30 a.m. Aug. 8 and was let go about 4 p.m.

DEA agents told Prieto he would receive a notice of federal proceedings to permanently forfeit the money within 30 days and that to get it back, he'd have to prove it was his and did not come from illegal drug sales.

They told him the process probably would take a year, the ACLU said.

The ACLU's New Mexico executive director, Peter Simonson, said Prieto needs his money now to pay bills and maintain his truck. The lawsuit said Prieto does not like banks and customarily carries his savings as cash.

"The government took Mr. Prieto's money as surely as if he had been robbed on a street corner at night," Simonson said. "In fact, being robbed might have been better. At least then the police would have treated him as the victim of a crime instead of as a perpetrator."

The DEA did not immediately respond Friday to a request for comment from The Associated Press.

Peter Olson, a spokesman for the Department of Public Safety, which oversees state police, said he could not comment on pending litigation.

The lawsuit names DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy, DEA task force officer Gary T. Apodaca, DEA agent Joseph Montoya and three state police officers identified only as John or Jane Doe.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aclu; assetforfeiture; dea; donutwatch; govwatch; lawsuit; legalizedtheft; leo; prieto; thieves; trucking; wod; wodlist
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To: Brilliant
The ACLU only gets involved when the person whose rights were supposedly violated is a criminal.

I think you are wrong here. The DEA has a history of stealing money from people and they know it will cost probably $100K to get this $23K back. That is why they steal it, they know it will cost the person too much to get their money back. The ACLU probably stepped in because they know this guy could not afford to get his own money back.

I know the ACLU is evil, but DEA makes them look like saints.
21 posted on 08/25/2007 1:00:44 PM PDT by microgood
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To: elfman2
I think it's probable cause to confiscate it, but there should be a very low bar of "proof" and expedited procedure to get it back.

In the land of the free and home of the brave you see mere possession of cash as probable cause for confiscation?

Un-freepin-believable.

22 posted on 08/25/2007 1:01:47 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: microgood

“So possessing cash is a crime?”

Apparently so, at least in very large quantities crossing borders without a reasonable explanation...


23 posted on 08/25/2007 1:03:15 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: microgood

Yeah, if you deny them their search, they do it anyway then look for any excuse at all to arrest you, body cavity search you, dismantle your vehicle, and then shove you out the door without even a kiss or a $20 bill on the night stand.


24 posted on 08/25/2007 1:04:18 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: elfman2

Why should a free man have to justify to the government why he is carrying cash?

And how on Earth can you condone those actions and still pretend to enjoy freedom?


25 posted on 08/25/2007 1:05:36 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: Eagle Eye

“In the land of the free and home of the brave you see mere possession of cash as probable cause for confiscation? Un-freepin-believable.”

Oh yea, it’s all a fascist conspiracy against idiots who cross borders with tens of thousands and no explanation…


26 posted on 08/25/2007 1:06:24 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: microgood

Yeah, but even people as wacked out as the ACLU by the sheer laws of probability will get it right once out of a hundred times.


27 posted on 08/25/2007 1:07:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: elfman2

Interesting that you believe that citizens owe explanations to the government for their comings and goings.


28 posted on 08/25/2007 1:09:55 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: Eagle Eye
"Why should a free man have to justify to the government why he is carrying cash?"

Uhmmm, because 99.99% of the time people carrying tens of thousands across the Mexican border without explanation are drug runners?

Like I said, give him a low burden of proof and a quick process to show he's just an rare idiot who's still able to collect cash.

29 posted on 08/25/2007 1:10:03 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: elfman2

Borders= state lines and $23,700 in cash in my mind does not constitute large quantities, and, BTW, his explanation was he did not like banks. If he is an owner/operator 300 gallaons of fuel cost about $1000, thats less than 3 days driving. Tire blows? Thats another $300.Transmission or engine failure, another $10 K. His truck should gross about$150K-$200K a year. $23K is sqaut.


30 posted on 08/25/2007 1:10:41 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: microgood

Have to go with the ACLU on this one.


31 posted on 08/25/2007 1:12:10 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: elfman2
Uhmmm, because 99.99% of the time people carrying tens of thousands across the Mexican border without explanation are drug runners?

You have proof for that statement or is it just pulled out of your butt...unlike your head.

32 posted on 08/25/2007 1:12:27 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: KoRn

“Since when did it become illegal to carry around large amounts cash? What has become of our once free country....”

Happens on I95 more often than you would believe. The theory is if you have that much cash, you must be doing something wrong. In order to get your property back, you must post 10% bond of the amount confiscated. Then go through a long and expensive procedure to TRY to get it back.

The DEA has done this with small farms and ranches too. On RUMORS of drug s on property they raid, find no drugs but file forfeiture proceedings anyway. Under forfeiture rules, you are considered guilty and you must prove your innocence.


33 posted on 08/25/2007 1:12:37 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Eagle Eye

“Interesting that you believe that citizens owe explanations to the government for their comings and goings.”

Yea, they should be able to take guns, dual use high technology and centrifuges either direction too. Next I’ll be spying on your dog.


34 posted on 08/25/2007 1:13:10 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: John Jorsett

“What happens if you deny them permission to search?”

If ever asked for permission to search, it’s not a yes or no answer. The correct answer to the officer is “if you have probable cause, you don’t need my permission”


35 posted on 08/25/2007 1:13:31 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: John Jorsett

Then the DEA ends up with bloody money.


36 posted on 08/25/2007 1:15:15 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: hophead

Preconviction asset forfeiture should be criminal and those practicing it should be prosecuted.

The idea that the government’s agents can steal from citizens is so repugnant to any idea of freedom or liberty than every citizen should be nauseated at the thought of it.

And those that aren’t probable should find somewhere else to live.


37 posted on 08/25/2007 1:15:37 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agee with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: Eagle Eye

“You have proof for that statement or is it just pulled out of your butt...unlike your head.”

You’re right, It’s really all about establishing taco franchises. Statistical support for that’s coming too...


38 posted on 08/25/2007 1:16:54 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: microgood

This is the price we pay for the “War on Drugs(TM)”. Here you have govt. agents playing the roll of highwaymen.


39 posted on 08/25/2007 1:18:57 PM PDT by jeddavis
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To: dalereed
It’s only illegal to take over $10k out of or into the country without declaring it, other than that you can carry as much as you want.

There are also a myriad of regulations relating to depositing, withdrawing, or otherwise transacting more than $10k in cash at a financial institution. In addition, there are rules and reporting requirements for purchasing negotiables with cash at smaller limits. Plus, if you even act "suspicious", the financial institution can file a report on you anyways.

40 posted on 08/25/2007 1:20:01 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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