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Full Court Access Urged for Detainees
AP via SFGate ^ | 8/24/7 | PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/24/2007 4:49:17 PM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Twenty retired federal judges, two rear admirals and a Marine general joined 383 current or former members of the European and British parliaments on Friday in urging the Supreme Court to grant detainees at Guantanamo Bay full access to the U.S. court system.

Lower court rulings supporting the Bush administration's opposition to full court access "were seized upon by repressive governments as a license to incarcerate their own citizens and others with impunity," 25 retired American diplomats wrote in one court filing.

In June, the Supreme Court agreed to take the detainees' case, reversing a decision in April not to hear arguments over whether the prisoners can use federal courts to challenge their confinement. Court filings by the Bush administration in the case are due on Oct. 9.

The 383 European politicians of divergent political views said it is important that even when faced with the threat of international terrorism, all states, including the United States, comply with the standards set by international humanitarian law and human rights law by granting full court access.

"The treatment of petitioners currently falls short of these standards," the European diplomats said.

Currently, the 355 detainees have only narrowly structured appeal rights. They are entitled to a single civilian court review of their status as enemy combatants, a designation made by three-member military panels. The detainees have no legal counsel before the military panels, which rely largely on classified information that the detainees are not allowed to see.

The panels, called Combatant Status Review Tribunals, have been tainted by the permissible use of evidence obtained by torture, said a court filing by two former Navy judge advocates general and the former senior legal adviser for the Marine Corps.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: detainees; gitmo; guantanamo; terrorsupporters; terrortrials
I'm sure that the terrorists appreciate the support.
1 posted on 08/24/2007 4:49:19 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Ditto.


2 posted on 08/24/2007 4:50:46 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: SmithL

Why don’t they let them have access to the British and European court systems....in fact....why don’t we just let the Gitmo prisoners loose in Britain and Europe?


3 posted on 08/24/2007 4:51:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: SmithL

this is total B.S.


4 posted on 08/24/2007 4:52:13 PM PDT by brivette
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To: SmithL

These people are prisoners of war and thusly have no right to access to our court system. They can get a lawyer if we ever plan on trying them for war crimes.


5 posted on 08/24/2007 4:52:41 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism now.)
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To: Cindy

Why do these people not understand that these are people that want to KILL us aand dominate the world with their unholy beliefs?


6 posted on 08/24/2007 4:53:42 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: SmithL

Non Americans should have access to taxpayer American courts? BS.

Close Gitmo and ship them to egypt. Let the egype courts handle them.


7 posted on 08/24/2007 4:54:21 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SmithL
Getting a large number of morons together to file briefs doesn’t some how make your argument less moronic AP. Too bad for you clowns at AP no sitting judges of any note apparently are agreeing with you.
8 posted on 08/24/2007 4:54:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: golfisnr1

“Why do these people not understand...”

OPINION:

Willful ignorance.


9 posted on 08/24/2007 4:56:03 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: SmithL
joined 383 current or former members of the European and British

Note to Eurotrash, you worry about your stagnant collapsing society 1st before lecturing us. We feel no desire to take advice from losers.

10 posted on 08/24/2007 4:56:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: stm
Actually their not POWs. They are illegal combatants. They should be tried by the appropriate military tribunal and punished in the fashion dictated by the Geneva Convention for Illegal Combatants.
11 posted on 08/24/2007 4:57:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: SmithL

No. Nada. Never. Not a chance. Nope. Sorry. Try Again.

I’m sure these fools will never get the message. Non-citizens intent on doing harm to this country should never have access to the American court system. Not only would it set a dangerous precedent, it would be unconstitutional.


12 posted on 08/24/2007 4:59:47 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: SmithL
Twenty retired federal judges, two rear admirals and a Marine general joined

Wow. That's pretty paltry.

13 posted on 08/24/2007 5:01:04 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MNJohnnie

We should stop detaining non-citizens captured abroad while engaged in military actions against us because other governments incarcerate their own citizens with impunity?


14 posted on 08/24/2007 5:01:33 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: p. henry

Wow, totally missed that. Excellent point.


15 posted on 08/24/2007 5:03:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: brivette
this is total B.S.

Of course it is. Heck, the reporting on what is going on is so twisted and mangled by our media that it even confuses foreign leaders.

Heck, Mr. Bill lied and told countries that his signature on things obligated the U.S. to things that couldn't be overturned...and they believed him, despite an even cursory reading of our Constitution showing he had no such power.

16 posted on 08/24/2007 5:04:01 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MNJohnnie
They should be tried by the appropriate military tribunal and punished in the fashion dictated by the Geneva Convention for Illegal Combatants.

Agree. They should be granted full access to 25 feet of rope each.

17 posted on 08/24/2007 5:14:52 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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