Posted on 08/24/2007 12:41:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
CBS) HAWTHORNE, Calif. Two children menaced by pit bulls in Hawthorne were safe Friday, but a woman running from the dogs broke her leg and a squad car being driven to the scene collided with another vehicle, injuring an officer and a motorist, police said.
A report that two pit bulls were menacing a 16-year-old girl and her 6-year-old brother in the 2900 block of 141st Place at El Segundo Boulevard and Prairie Avenue was received by Hawthorne police about 8 a.m., Hawthorne police Lt. Michael Ishii said.
An animal-control officer distracted the dogs with a chemical spray, and the children ran to safety, Ishii said.
No one was bitten, but a woman who ran from the dogs fell and broke her leg, and she was taken to a hospital, Ishii said.
Meanwhile, an officer driving to the scene crashed into another vehicle at El Segundo Boulevard and Prairie Avenue, he said.
Paramedics transported the officer and the other motorist for treatment of ''minor-to-moderate'' injuries, he said.
The dogs were returned to their owner, who lives in the neighborhood, and police issued a citation for violation of the leash law, Ishii said.
A pit bull is like a gun with a mind of its own, that sits quietly on the rack until one day the gun points itself at you and shoots you.
Your dogs have a mind of their own and don't give me the "It's the owners, not the dogs" garbage. I ain't buying it. Every dog is sweet and playful until it bites for the first time and with pit bulls, this "first bite" often ends with devastating results.
That's exactly right.
It's not a question of whether pit bulls are more prone to attack people (though I suspect they are).
It's the damage they do when they do attack.
With most other breeds of dog a person might stand a chance of holding it at bay with a stick or even bare hands.
But not these dogs.
That's why a pea shooter is not regulated but a firearm is: because the much greater likelihood of serious harm that a firearm can cause.
Any state that allows people to own pit bulls around other people, should also allow those other people the right to carry a sidearm everywhere they go.
That’s it:
A pitbull is like a chimpanzee wielding a pistol or razor knife.
I used to work near that intersection. It's not bad during daylight hours. Night's another matter.
LOL. What kind of pistol?
;-)
I like animals.
And I’ve known and liked many large animals, including large dogs.
To me, an animal ceases to be a harmless pet when they have the equipment, size, muscles, fangs, poison glands, etc., to be deadly.
I have always been on guard around any domestic animal having the potential to do me or others serious harm.
As such, I find the company of such animals less than completely enjoyable (just as I would not be comfortable around a six year old child holding a loaded pistol).
And since one should not be completely relaxed around such animals, owning one simply for the companionship it provides is not the best idea.
If one wants an animal companion, choose one having less ability to kill or maim you or your neighbors.
When I was growing up, Dobermans were the dogs to be scared of.
I knew one very sweet doberman—but as much as I liked the dog, I never forgot it could rip my throat out in an instant if it suddenly decided to.
Such dogs and other large animals often have a place in human society when used as working animals.
I could, for example, understand having even a pit bull as a watch dog, especially in a dangerous neighborhood where legal firearms are restricted.
Or—as a last resort—having a pit bull to protect you from your neighbor’s pit bull.
Same for me. I was terrified of Dobermans. To me, they were these sleek, muscular, scary-looking dogs with pointed ears.
Now, I own two dobies and wouldn't trade them for the world. I really admire the breed. Once I started researching the breed, I found that it wasn't at all what I had believed.
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Regarding toothless pitbulls, now maybe you are onto something.
Geez...How’d I miss this thread?
Good post btw
Hey! Just found this thread on my way over to the '2 PBs maul sleeping lady' thread to make a post. Kind of relates to your post regarding the media so here it is (I added the color highlights and a comment at the end)...
Slanesville, WV (PRWEB) August 25, 2007 -- A study by the National Canine Research Council reveals biased reporting by the media, its devastating consequences for dogs and the toll it takes on public safety.
Consider how the media reported four incidents that happened between August 18th and August 21st:
August 18, 2007 -
A Labrador mix attacked a 70-year-old man sending him to the hospital in critical condition. Police officers arrived at the scene and the dog was shot after charging the officers.
This incident was reported in ONE (1) article and only in the local paper.
August 19, 2007 -
A 16-month old child received fatal head and neck injuries after being attacked by a mixed breed dog.
This attack was reported TWO (2) times by the local paper only.
August 20, 2007 -
A 6-year-old boy is hospitalized after having his ear torn off and receiving severe bites to the head by a medium-sized mixed breed dog.
This attack was reported in ONE (1) article and only in the local paper.
August 21, 2007 -
A 59-year-old woman was attacked in her home by two Pit bulls and was hospitalized with severe injuries.
This attack was reported in over two hundred and thirty (230) articles in national and international newspapers, as well as major television news networks, including CNN, MSNBC and FOX.
"Clearly a fatal attack by an unremarkable breed is not nearly as newsworthy as a non-fatal attack by a Pit bull," says Karen Delise, researcher for the National Canine Research Council.
The National Canine Research Council reports that people routinely cite media coverage as "proof" that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs. Delise says costly and ineffective public policy decisions are being made on the basis of such "proof". While this biased reporting is not only lethal to an entire population of dogs; sensationalized media coverage endangers the public by misleading them about the real factors in canine aggression.
About The National Canine Research Council
The National Canine Research Council investigates all reported cases of fatal dog attacks in the United States. Serious analysis and discussion of canine aggression cannot be conducted from information acquired from media sources.
The release doesn't give a link to the occurrence and I hesitate to post about it without more information.
I emailed Karen Delise a researcher at the NCRC and author of the book, "Fatal Dog Attacks" (an excellent resource that I have in my library)
and was pleasantly surprised when she quickly replied.
Here is one of the two links for the fatal dog attack that the rest of the media didn't think important enough to pick up...
http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/county_14928___article.html/stray_animal.html
This really needs its own thread...FR doing the work the drive by media won't!
You can raise pit bulls and chihuahuas to be loving, friendly family pets. You can also raise a chihuahua and a pit bull to be aggresive violent dogs. The difference is, the only thing a violent chihuahua can harm is a butterfly, or your ankles.
Here is a killer pit bull that was way to dangerous to have around children:
Extra-Special ping just for you to post 171. ;~)
I just went to the link you provided, about the death of that poor little boy:
“The family had apparently taken the stray dog under it’s wing, a Chow-mix they named Ariel. The dog also had a litter of puppies and it appears Aerial was protective of her puppies.
Rackley was with his grandfather, Bobby Anders, doing what they liked to do... pick some tomatoes and work in the yard.
“The child walked behind him, grabbed him a puppy and petted him. He was no where near the mother, the mother was on a chain. He went to get the other two boxes and when he came back he didn’t see the child,” Anders said.
Anders, the grandfather, looked frantically for Rackley and finally found the toddler, lifeless in a hole the dog scratched in the ground.
Paramedics and doctors at T.C. Thompson Children’s Hospital could not revive Elijah, who had dog bites on his head and neck.”
Our state dangerous dog law excuses bites when a bitch has pups. Frankly, IMHO, this bitch needs to be put down.
Yep.
The story needs a good going over too, what there is of it.
I'll post it tomorrow with a bit of analysis
along with the evidence of the incredible difference in coverage it received compared to PB story.
Someone mentioned on one of the ongoing threads
that the media shares some responsiblity for the mess we're seeing.
By sensationalizing these stories, portraying the breed as monsters.
By selling their souls for the almighty buck and glorifying the gangsta culture.
It just feeds into the sub-humans twisted desires for some macho accessory
Some take these dogs, brutalize and torture them in the most viscious ways conceivable
trying to turn them into monsters for the most pervert, demented and selfish reasons.
Others simple neglect them and that is a cruelty too,
for there is something in these dogs that needs human contact.
These animals more than any others have been victims of the cruelty of man.
It makes me sorrowful to see people here blaming all the dogs,
hating them, fearing even to see pictures of them, calling for "canine ethnic cleansing"
because I know what good dogs they are when given responsible care.
I've seen it, I know it... and I pray for the time when the evil man does ends.
When the breed becomes less popular and regains its rightful place.
And I can only hope that some other will not take its place.
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I've seen this complete video on DVD and I've asked the poster if he can post the second half of it.
I would like those who claim that fighting is their nature to be able to see the full video
to see that they are abused, trained, put into a pit and goaded to fight
some even then will not fight and there is a gate in the pit for them to escape.
But there is no escape as 2nd half shows, think Michael Vick.
mark
The next time I run across one of these threads, I'll give you a ping.
mark
“To me, an animal ceases to be a harmless pet when they have the equipment, size, muscles, fangs, poison glands, etc., to be deadly.”
Put “horses” on that list. Including “ponies”.
You’d be scared of just about every animal, I guess.
The irony is that horse people often have much more respect for the horse than dog people have for dogs. I think the former respect the mere size, whereas the latter don’t respect the teeth because there is no size.
The difference is “respect” vs. “scared”/”uncomfortable”. 1 should always be wary and respectful, but just being scared because of some presumptions is no way to live.
Interesting.
This is 1 of the things that bugs me, too - the MUTTS. Everyone seems to love to ID a dog by a breed (or at least, type). Perhaps when the dog is virtually unidentifiable, it’s not as “fun” to pick up the story.
Never mind the fact I fear many mutts are misidentified as “PBTs”.
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