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To: ansel12
>>>On these threads I would like it to become more clear that the movie portrays what may be the most horrible event in American history, the mass slaughter of American pioneers by people that only a few years before, would have considered themselves as just like the people they were destroying.

The MMM victims did not deserve their fate and were murdered.

I do wonder when Hollywood will do a movie about the 600 Mormons who died at Winter Quarters? Most of them between age 0-5. They signed a peace treaty with the Missouri Mob who took their guns as part of the surrender terms. Then breaking the treaty which said the Mormons would leave the next spring they forced them out at gunpoint in the dead of winter. The women and children and men left a trail of blood in the snow. Many starved and many died of hypothermia. Although it was not a direct "execution" it was a death sentence for over 600 of them.

Most Mormons I have talked to know about MMM and are shamed by it. Most non-Mormons I know have never heard of the mass grave site at Winter Quarters, Omaha.


132 posted on 08/24/2007 9:30:42 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

“I do wonder when Hollywood will do a movie about the 600 Mormons who died at Winter Quarters? “

I don’t know, but it has nothing to do with a film about these victims, that were killed not by nature, but by religious murderers.


134 posted on 08/24/2007 9:46:20 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Rameumptom
I do wonder when Hollywood will do a movie about the 600 Mormons who died at Winter Quarters? Most of them between age 0-5.

I think Hollywood will make that movie as soon as they think it might make money. Now as far as the 600 dead, Rameumptom...

Please provide a link to this information, along with the year of death. The fated Martin and Willy handcart Company (that has death tolls often atributed to the mobs) left St. Louis a full 9 years after the expulsion of the saints from Missouri. If anyone is to be blamed for their deaths....it is Brigham Young for allowing such a stupid "perpetual emigration" plan that allowed the members of his Church to start out accross the praries ill equipped, with handcarts and too late in the season for safety.

135 posted on 08/24/2007 9:48:32 AM PDT by colorcountry (Silence isn't always golden.....Sometimes it's just yellow!)
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For what it is worth these people say it was about half of the figure you told us.
http://www.lds.org/placestovisit/location/0,10634,1837-1-1-1,00.html


136 posted on 08/24/2007 10:04:19 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Rameumptom

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I do wonder when Hollywood will do a movie about the 600 Mormons who died at Winter Quarters? Most of them between age 0-5. They signed a peace treaty with the Missouri Mob who took their guns as part of the surrender terms. Then breaking the treaty which said the Mormons would leave the next spring they forced them out at gunpoint in the dead of winter. The women and children and men left a trail of blood in the snow. Many starved and many died of hypothermia. Although it was not a direct “execution” it was a death sentence for over 600 of them.””

I didn’t know about the event so I am having to google it, reading what this site has to say is starting to make me doubt you.

http://lds.org/gospellibrary/pioneer/13_Winter_Quarters.html


137 posted on 08/24/2007 10:16:42 AM PDT by ansel12
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