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Special Meals For Jew, Muslim Inmates Halted [FL]
local6 ^ | August 23, 2007

Posted on 08/23/2007 1:08:20 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

MIAMI -- Jewish inmates who follow strict religious diets at state prisons are no longer provided meals in line with their beliefs. Muslims must now eat vegan food to satisfy their religious requirements.

The Corrections Department has ended the Jewish Dietary Accommodation Program, which provided kosher meals to not only Jews, but to Muslims as well, because the state prison system does not offer halal food. Cost -- and fairness -- were cited as factors.

"We have 100 faiths represented by DOC inmates, so it would be impossible to satisfy everyone's preferences and unfair to do it for one group and not another," agency spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said. "We just have to look at what our mission is and what's best for our overall department and the overall population of inmates in our system instead of a smaller group."

The department has suspended use of pork products in an attempt to appease religious adherents and will continue to serve vegetarian and vegan meals. It said many Jews and Muslims could choose the vegan option, which is free of any animal products, to adhere to their faiths.

But for the strict followers of kosher and halal diets, it is far from ideal.

Rabbi Jack Romberg of Temple Israel in Tallahassee, who was a member of a group that reviewed religious dietary accommodations in prisons, noted that unless the vegan food is prepared separately from other meals, it would not satisfy kosher law. Ahmed Bedier of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Tampa said vegan food would meet the religious requirements of those who follow a halal diet, but would cause undue hardship.

"Either you have a choice of violating your own religion beliefs or you're coerced to only eat vegan," Bedier said. "That's probably not a reasonable accommodation."

Rules on halal and kosher foods are intricate, but at their core are similar in that both exclude pork and mandate a specific way in which an animal is to be killed. Kosher laws dictate the way food is cooked as well.

The Corrections Department halted new enrollment in the state's Jewish Dietary Accommodation Program in April -- when it had 259 inmates enrolled and another 95 seeking inclusion -- and commissioned a review. Last year, the department opened the kosher meal program to non-Jews and officials have feared it would burgeon, along with the bill.

The study group that looked at the issue recommended more stringent screening of applicants to ensure they weren't claiming religious beliefs simply to get different food. But the department said it wasn't feasible.

"It becomes impossible to really assess a person's faith and determine who should and who should not participate," Plessinger said. "By telling a person you're not faithful enough or not religious in your faith that's not really fair either."

The study group also recommended possible use of prepackaged kosher meals, a move members said could ease some logistical hurdles and better suit inmates' faiths.

"I wouldn't know why they wouldn't accept the recommendation," Romberg said.

The department said costs for the program ran the risk of running too high and could take away money from educational and vocational programming in prisons. There are about 93,000 inmates in state prisons, with an estimated 3.7 percent of them Muslim and 2.2 percent Jewish.

The state said it costs about $2.66 daily to serve inmates three regular meals. Kosher meals cost the same, but with costs for disposable containers and transportation, since the food wasn't prepared in each facility, the price came to about $4.71 daily. Prepackaged kosher meals would have cost roughly $12 to $15 daily per prisoner, according to the department, but also may have come with additional costs for transport and supplementation with additional food items.

A survey included in the study group's recommendations found that nationally, among 34 states that responded, 26 had kosher menus available. Out of 33 state responses, just five offered halal food.

Florida state regulations mandate three meals -- at least two of them hot -- be served to inmates each day, and that "inmates who wish to observe religious dietary laws receive a diet sufficient to sustain them in good health without violating those dietary laws."

The state was already the target of a still-unresolved lawsuit filed last year on behalf of Muslim inmates denied meals in accordance with their diets. Randall Berg, the Florida Justice Institute attorney who filed that suit, said he was considering amending the complaint to include Jewish inmates.

"One of the things we as a society ought to be wanting inmates to do is to get on the right track while they're in prison," he said. "The last thing we want to do is to alienate prisoners from their religious beliefs."

Harry Dammer, a criminal justice professor at the University of Scranton who studies religion in prisons, said he did expect more lawsuits.

"The trend is to come up with this one alternative meal that will sort of encompass all of these parties," he said, "and it's not going to be easy to do."


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1 posted on 08/23/2007 1:08:23 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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The study group that looked at the issue recommended more stringent screening of applicants to ensure they weren't claiming religious beliefs simply to get different food. But the department said it wasn't feasible.

How to scam better food in prison.

The state said it costs about $2.66 daily to serve inmates three regular meals. Kosher meals cost the same, but with costs for disposable containers and transportation, since the food wasn't prepared in each facility, the price came to about $4.71 daily. Prepackaged kosher meals would have cost roughly $12 to $15 daily per prisoner, according to the department, but also may have come with additional costs for transport and supplementation with additional food items.

FYI - that is more than the army pays to feed soldiers...

2 posted on 08/23/2007 1:12:57 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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they are criminals. feed them garbage for all I care...they kill, rob and rape people, and they are concerned for religious reasons about their diets....how about their sins and crimes against humanity....give me a break...more liberal bs..


3 posted on 08/23/2007 1:13:04 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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4 posted on 08/23/2007 1:15:04 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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“One of the things we as a society ought to be wanting inmates to do is to get on the right track while they’re in prison,” he said. “The last thing we want to do is to alienate prisoners from their religious beliefs.”

Heh, how moonbattish - their “religious beliefs” obviously suck, or they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place. Alienate away.


5 posted on 08/23/2007 1:16:43 PM PDT by Baladas
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So you have these people whose disregard for the law is so great that it landed them in prison.

We're to believe, then, that they have a problem because they can't follow a religious dietary law?

Won't their allah give them a special dispensation?

6 posted on 08/23/2007 1:19:59 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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I can’t believe that they did this BS in the first place. Seems to me that if you are a criminal and get tossed in jail you violated your religious beliefs in the first place, you reap what you sew. An argument could be made against that for the muzzie’s though, since it seems that being a criminal going hand in hand with their religious beliefs.


7 posted on 08/23/2007 1:21:55 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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"Rabbi Jack Romberg of Temple Israel in Tallahassee, who was a member of a group that reviewed religious dietary accommodations in prisons, noted that unless the vegan food is prepared separately from other meals, it would not satisfy kosher law."

Hummmmmmm. As I recall, after being captured by the Babylonians the prophet Daniel requested a diet of vegtables and water in order to comply with the law. No other requirements. God credited it to him as rightousness. If it was good enough for Daniel it's good enough for these guys.

8 posted on 08/23/2007 1:22:22 PM PDT by joebuck
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Doesn’t seem like they were all that interested in their religious beliefs when they committed their crimes. ::shrug::


9 posted on 08/23/2007 1:22:28 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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I hadn’t thought of it before, but this is a fine way to prevent our prisions from becoming islamic bookcamps turning out soldiers with world class physiques.


10 posted on 08/23/2007 1:22:31 PM PDT by papertyger
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Thye’re cons - let them eat cake.


11 posted on 08/23/2007 1:23:46 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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"The last thing we want to do is to alienate prisoners from their religious beliefs."

If they had adhered to the religious teachings of their faith then they probably wouldn't be in jail in the first place.

12 posted on 08/23/2007 1:24:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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Sheriff Joe in Arizona has the right idea: Stale bread and old bologna for everybody! Screw their religious beliefs. That’s a luxury reserved for free men, IMO.


13 posted on 08/23/2007 1:24:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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How many Jewish inmates are in the prison system? The Jewish chaplain can arrange for them to receive kosher food.


14 posted on 08/23/2007 1:24:56 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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Feed them what they would eat in a Saudi prison.


15 posted on 08/23/2007 1:25:37 PM PDT by henkster (The dems have reserved your place on the collective farm.)
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And the two Jews who are incarcerated in the Florida penal system vigorously protested this action.
16 posted on 08/23/2007 1:25:56 PM PDT by Signalman
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The department has suspended use of pork products in an attempt to appease religious adherents...Pork ("the other white meat") is a major staple in the American diet and is affordable. Given the price of beef, I think it is fair to assume that not a lot of it is being served.

Speaking of unfairness...deny pork to the whole population to satisfy religious preference of a relative few? What is wrong with this picture?

17 posted on 08/23/2007 1:26:06 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov (Not buying Fred...still shopping)
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We have 100 faiths represented by DOC inmates, so it would be impossible to satisfy everyone's preferences and unfair to do it for one group and not another,"

I find this hard to believe. 100 faiths with separate religious dietary preferences?

I say do it for the Jews and Muslims, and people most be openly practicing their religion to get the food. No "INO"s need apply.

18 posted on 08/23/2007 1:28:28 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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My faith requires that I eat USDA grade A New york Strip Steak daily, do you think they will accommodate me?
19 posted on 08/23/2007 1:29:04 PM PDT by LukeL
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OK these guys /gals have commited crimes. Then when they get locked up, they become devote. What’s wrong with this picture.


20 posted on 08/23/2007 1:29:22 PM PDT by marty60
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