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Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008 (Must Read!)
The New York Observer ^ | August 21, 2007 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 08/22/2007 8:38:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Dukakis has seen this script before: a Republican administration besieged by scandal and running out the clock on its second term, while wide-eyed Democrats confidently lick their chops, knowing there’s no way in hell voters will reward the G.O.P. with four more years in the White House.

It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Oliver North told Congress he was “authorized to do everything that I did” and Reagan fatigue took hold, that Mr. Dukakis, then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a crowded Democratic presidential pack. By the time he was formally nominated in Atlanta the following July, he’d opened a 17-point lead over Vice President George H.W. Bush.

“I can handle this guy,” Mr. Dukakis supposedly replied around that time when John Sasso, his consultant in exile, asked to return to the campaign. “You worry about the first 100 days.”

So you can understand why the numerous harbingers of a triumphant 2008 for Democrats—George W. Bush’s Nixonian approval ratings, polls that show voters favoring a Democratic White House candidate by double-digit margins, the electorate’s historical aversion to three-term rule by one party—haven’t prompted Mr. Dukakis to begin planning his trip to the 2009 inaugural celebration.

“We’re not going to outspend the other guys,” he said during an interview in his modest office in the political science department at Northeastern University, where he was the first to arrive (at 7:30 a.m.) on a recent midsummer morning. “We’re probably not going to outstrategize them. And some crazy guy will blow up a building with three weeks to go, you know, and then we’ll be back in Bush-land again.”

Since his fall collapse was made official on Nov. 8, 1988—an eight-point, 426-to-112 electoral-vote loss to George H.W. Bush—Democrats have held up Mr. Dukakis’ general election campaign as a case study in the perils of not hitting back. In 1992, Bill Clinton, with his rapid response team and pitch-perfect shaming of Mr. Bush in their first debate, showed he’d learned the lesson; in 2004, John Kerry showed that he’d forgotten it.

But while Mr. Dukakis readily indicts himself for fatally ignoring the 1988 version of Swift-Boating—the G.O.P.’s success with Willie Horton, he said, “was my own damn fault; no one else’s”—he worries that his party has oversimplified the lesson of his defeat, and of Mr. Kerry’s and Al Gore’s, too. And if Democrats don’t learn the right lesson soon, he fears they’ll be locked out of the White House for a third straight time in 2008—no matter how rosy the electoral math now looks.

“We have to organize every damn precinct in the United States of America—all 185,000,” Mr. Dukakis said. “I’m serious. I’m deadly serious. I didn’t do it after the primary [in 1988]. Don’t ask me why, because that’s the way I got myself elected from the time I was running for town meeting in Brookline to the time I ran for governor.”

And when he talks about organizing, he doesn’t mean the legions of eager college students—think the orange-hat-clad “Perfect Storm” that Howard Dean sought to rain down on Iowa in 2004—who are shipped off to key states for crunch-time grunt work. He also doesn’t mean limiting the outreach to “likely” Democratic voters, because—especially after seven years of George W. Bush—“there are huge numbers of disaffected Republicans out there. Who says they won’t vote for us?”

“I’m talking about every precinct,” he said, “with a precinct captain and six block-captains that make personal contact with every single voting household. And I mean starting a year in advance. I’m not talking about parachuting in with two weeks to go. That’s baloney. And these people are people who’ve got to be from the precinct, of the precinct, look like the precinct and talk like the precinct.”

The way he tells it, this was the missing ingredient in his 1988 effort—a powerful and utterly economical tool that, if properly deployed, could have blunted the Bush campaign’s character-assassination-by-paid-media, and one that could spare Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama his ultimate fate.

True to his technocratic roots, Mr. Dukakis has the idea of replicating, on every street, avenue, and rural route in the country, the kind of personal relationships that once powered big-city political machines—with precinct captains calling on their neighbors every few weeks, asking them about their concerns, talking up their candidate and following up on any questions they might have. Mr. Dukakis’ vision is rooted in good government—making sure, for instance, that a neighbor’s concerns about school vouchers are satisfactorily addressed.

That kind of personalized operation early on, Mr. Dukakis believes, can keep voters from believing the worst when the Willie Horton and Swift Boat campaigns begin.

“There’s a chemistry there, which is hard to describe unless you’ve done it,” he said. “Otherwise, it permits your opponent to paint you as something you aren’t. It happened to me. It happened to Kerry. They tried to do it to Clinton. They’ll try to do it to anybody.”

Here’s how Mr. Dukakis broke down the struggle that Mr. Kerry—Mr. Dukakis’ lieutenant governor from 1983 to 1985—faced three years ago.

“You never had a sense that people felt personally connected to the guy, right? Had he had that kind of operation going nationally, there would have been a much stronger feeling of personal connection. Why? Because average folks in the neighborhood are out pushing him.”

Mr. Dukakis says he pleaded with Mr. Kerry to build a meaningful precinct-based organization in 2004, but couldn’t break through. Now he’s working informally with the Democratic National Committee, where Chairman Howard Dean—he of the 50-state strategy—is much more receptive to the concept. But so far, Mr. Dukakis said, none of the 2008 Democrats seem serious about his brand of organizing.

“The guy who ought to be doing it, above any of them, is Obama, because he’s probably got 300,000 contributors,” he notes. “Every one of those people, as soon as the contribution comes in: ‘Thank you and will you be a precinct captain?’ Or, ‘Thank you, this guy is your precinct captain—will you be one of his block captains?’”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 1988; 2008; barackhusseinobama; bush41; democrats; dukakis; electionpresident; elections; georgehwbush; gop; gotv; hillary; hillaryclinton; howarddean; michaeldukakis; obama; precincts; republicans; ronaldreagan; swiftboatvets; voters; wards; williehorton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, its all about technology. Dukakis doesn't get it about Willie Horton - it stood for everything that was wrong about the Democratic approach to criminal justice. He saw NOTHING WRONG with granting furlough to murderers. Voters were revolted by the concept. And that was his undoing. He was stupid enough to defend something that ran counter to Americans' notions of how murderers should be dealt with not - with holiday freedom from prison but with life behind bars or being put to death. It didn't help that he was philosophically opposed to the death penalty. What Americans saw was a presidential candidate unfeeling towards crime victims and soft on crime.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

41 posted on 08/23/2007 12:55:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Graymatter
Isn't it about the issues? Amazingly, the Democrats have a knack for winding up on the wrong side of them. ALWAYS!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

42 posted on 08/23/2007 12:58:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are that organized in San Diego—for a true conservative, there would be a force quite strong.


43 posted on 08/23/2007 1:08:14 AM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: ClaireSolt
“Americans are appalled by the freak show of the Dem congress”

You may be right. I have been trying to figure the numbers out for a while. Certainly puts to rest (for a while) that the country had swung to the left again. That doesn’t mean they will not swing back again.

The Democratic campaign committee has probably not missed that either. That is the reason the squeaky voices have dropped in the last couple of months. Even the press has started to run some subtle pieces not entirely favorable of the other dem presidential candidates.

So we will probably see a couple of things between now and the election. First will be an attempt to really tar a high level Republican. They will try to pull a Tom Delay move and try to make the Republican will step down whether guilt or not (just like Delay). The Clinton slime machine will be the center of that. With the full support of the MSM.

Additionally they will reign in all the loud mouths, and look to see Hillary looking and sounding more centrist. She has started already with her hedging support of the yet to be released report from Petraeus.

The other dems are not playing in the same league with the Clinton's. The Republicans must consider that heavily. Hillary will have all their records and her investigators will have all the dirt.

The Clinton machine is sneaky and their timing is usually pretty good. The Repubs need to be ready for the attack because it will come. The Clinton machine has already quashed the Gore and Kerry feints. The others will be handled easily .

The 17% approval for the Dems is not much better for the Republicans... and actually favors the Republicans... after all the Dems "were put there to change thins" The Republicans can just propose bill after logical bill and force the dems to shoot them down. On the other side they can defeat as many bills as possible that are outside of the wishes of the mainstream..

The Republicans should get heavily on the anti-Illegal immigration band wagon. The support of firmness on those measures crosses party line and it could make Republicans the party most Americans agree with..

Then the dems will either need to fight them and look bad doing it, or side with them and then the Republicans will claim the high ground for being right on the issue there by creating a perception they are the party of the common people and running the issues that are important to ma and pa joe six-pack.

44 posted on 08/23/2007 1:26:50 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Thanks for the tip!


45 posted on 08/23/2007 1:53:52 AM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just finding a solid worker in 185,000 precincts by the national candidate would require more than 10 bucks per precinct. So you’ve just spent 2 million bucks to get names.

I don’t think that’s the way for a national campaign to go.

A republican national candidate would do better to tie into state legislative campaigns. The precinct level is very important to this level of candidate.


46 posted on 08/23/2007 4:35:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

The candidate needs to be chosen first, otherwise too many resourse would be expended. The question then becomes...Will it be a candidate of the RNC’s liking or one of the RLC’s liking.


47 posted on 08/23/2007 4:47:43 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: CutePuppy

Winning those states will require satisfying the wants of the economic populists...the we’ll all be worse off for it.


48 posted on 08/23/2007 5:01:14 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Democrats have held up Mr. Dukakis’ general election campaign as a case study in the perils of not hitting back."

I'm glad dims are so stupid. They sound like they really beleive their idiocy. Whats to hit back about? Dukakis WAS giving violent felons weekend passes! How is telling the truth about someone an attack?

Once people knew about Willie Horton, they knew they couldn't trust a liberal like Dukakis with even the most fundemental level of their personal security. It's not rocket science, but the dims ignore it and make it about something else. Just like they report that John McCain's lousy poll numbers are about his stance on the war and not his shamnesty proposal. We all know the real story, but the dims/msm have their agenda to sell, and sell it they'll try.

As far as J F'n K is concerned, he didn't hit back either because the more poking around people did, the more they came to know that the Swift Boat Vets for Truth were right. There were too many of them saying the same thing for their story to be wrong. Kerry had everything to lose and nothing to gain by setting that record straight.

So instead, he counted on the MSM for cover, and he got it (and a lot more according to the favorable/unfavorable Kerry/Bush ratio), but it wasn't enough to keep the blogs quiet about the real J F'n K.

49 posted on 08/23/2007 5:01:22 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: JSteff

I have a wacky theory that I certainly cannot prove. But I will lay it out, as you mention Clinton and her FBI files. It looks to me as if the R’s have two powerful linebackers on the field both of whom have the goods on
Clinton and crime fighting expertise. They are Thompson and
Giulani. Either one could put her away for the rest of her life. You know that they have the goods on her, but Bush has not wanted to prosecute. In this analogy the linebackers are runnng interferance for Romney, the brainy quarterback.


50 posted on 08/23/2007 5:03:58 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: CutePuppy

Sorry, but I predict Hillary loses 98 states with her replay of the losing platforms of McGovern and Mondale landslides. Throw in Hillarycare for retaking Congress, too.


51 posted on 08/23/2007 5:12:16 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mickey The Duke wants everybody to forget that it was his primary opponent, Al Gore, who introduced Willy Horton into the game.


52 posted on 08/23/2007 5:32:21 AM PDT by metesky (Brought To You By Satriales Aerosol PorkChop Mist - The Finest New Jersey Has To Offer!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
It’s been 19 years but the Duke still makes me puke.

Back then, I lived in Norfolk, VA ... one of the local radio stations did its news reporting on election day "live from Downtown Norfolk at the corner of Duke and Bousch streets".

53 posted on 08/23/2007 5:38:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: libs_kma
The issue of furloughs for murderers was NOT a Republican attack. It was raised first in the 1988 Democratic primaries by none other than Al Gore. Exposing the truth about the stupidity of Dukakis' policy came first from the Democrats. Dukakis had a chance to correct it but never did. So when the GOP took it up, it was a legitimate issue as regards Dukakis' liberal world view.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

54 posted on 08/23/2007 6:47:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DesScorp

Dukakis was the worst candidate ever. That rape question should have been so easy top knock out of the park.

Do you remember SNL did a skit called Dukakis After Dark? It was after he lost the election and he was throwing a party with the left over campaign money. Its fantastic.


55 posted on 08/23/2007 7:33:17 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If we organized like Tammany Hall used to, we would beat the pants off of the dems,"

Does anyone really think Rove is going to sit out this election?

yitbos

56 posted on 08/23/2007 6:07:55 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Do you cry over spilled milk too?


57 posted on 08/24/2007 10:18:02 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Get a colonoscopy - Ron Paulyps could be cancerous!)
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To: Fledermaus

Since you appear to be the only one on this thread acting like a misbehaved four-year-old, I’d say that crying and spilling milk are much more up your alley than mine.


58 posted on 08/24/2007 12:26:44 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (President Hunter should appoint Senator Katherine Harris to his cabinet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All politics is local - grassroots wins elections.


59 posted on 08/24/2007 12:30:08 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still delusional. The fact is the Dems could be unbeatable if they combined a tax-the-rich-for-handouts with a strong security message. Thank heaven for their moonbats.


60 posted on 08/24/2007 1:22:47 PM PDT by edsheppa
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