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Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008 (Must Read!)
The New York Observer ^ | August 21, 2007 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 08/22/2007 8:38:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Dukakis has seen this script before: a Republican administration besieged by scandal and running out the clock on its second term, while wide-eyed Democrats confidently lick their chops, knowing there’s no way in hell voters will reward the G.O.P. with four more years in the White House.

It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Oliver North told Congress he was “authorized to do everything that I did” and Reagan fatigue took hold, that Mr. Dukakis, then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a crowded Democratic presidential pack. By the time he was formally nominated in Atlanta the following July, he’d opened a 17-point lead over Vice President George H.W. Bush.

“I can handle this guy,” Mr. Dukakis supposedly replied around that time when John Sasso, his consultant in exile, asked to return to the campaign. “You worry about the first 100 days.”

So you can understand why the numerous harbingers of a triumphant 2008 for Democrats—George W. Bush’s Nixonian approval ratings, polls that show voters favoring a Democratic White House candidate by double-digit margins, the electorate’s historical aversion to three-term rule by one party—haven’t prompted Mr. Dukakis to begin planning his trip to the 2009 inaugural celebration.

“We’re not going to outspend the other guys,” he said during an interview in his modest office in the political science department at Northeastern University, where he was the first to arrive (at 7:30 a.m.) on a recent midsummer morning. “We’re probably not going to outstrategize them. And some crazy guy will blow up a building with three weeks to go, you know, and then we’ll be back in Bush-land again.”

Since his fall collapse was made official on Nov. 8, 1988—an eight-point, 426-to-112 electoral-vote loss to George H.W. Bush—Democrats have held up Mr. Dukakis’ general election campaign as a case study in the perils of not hitting back. In 1992, Bill Clinton, with his rapid response team and pitch-perfect shaming of Mr. Bush in their first debate, showed he’d learned the lesson; in 2004, John Kerry showed that he’d forgotten it.

But while Mr. Dukakis readily indicts himself for fatally ignoring the 1988 version of Swift-Boating—the G.O.P.’s success with Willie Horton, he said, “was my own damn fault; no one else’s”—he worries that his party has oversimplified the lesson of his defeat, and of Mr. Kerry’s and Al Gore’s, too. And if Democrats don’t learn the right lesson soon, he fears they’ll be locked out of the White House for a third straight time in 2008—no matter how rosy the electoral math now looks.

“We have to organize every damn precinct in the United States of America—all 185,000,” Mr. Dukakis said. “I’m serious. I’m deadly serious. I didn’t do it after the primary [in 1988]. Don’t ask me why, because that’s the way I got myself elected from the time I was running for town meeting in Brookline to the time I ran for governor.”

And when he talks about organizing, he doesn’t mean the legions of eager college students—think the orange-hat-clad “Perfect Storm” that Howard Dean sought to rain down on Iowa in 2004—who are shipped off to key states for crunch-time grunt work. He also doesn’t mean limiting the outreach to “likely” Democratic voters, because—especially after seven years of George W. Bush—“there are huge numbers of disaffected Republicans out there. Who says they won’t vote for us?”

“I’m talking about every precinct,” he said, “with a precinct captain and six block-captains that make personal contact with every single voting household. And I mean starting a year in advance. I’m not talking about parachuting in with two weeks to go. That’s baloney. And these people are people who’ve got to be from the precinct, of the precinct, look like the precinct and talk like the precinct.”

The way he tells it, this was the missing ingredient in his 1988 effort—a powerful and utterly economical tool that, if properly deployed, could have blunted the Bush campaign’s character-assassination-by-paid-media, and one that could spare Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama his ultimate fate.

True to his technocratic roots, Mr. Dukakis has the idea of replicating, on every street, avenue, and rural route in the country, the kind of personal relationships that once powered big-city political machines—with precinct captains calling on their neighbors every few weeks, asking them about their concerns, talking up their candidate and following up on any questions they might have. Mr. Dukakis’ vision is rooted in good government—making sure, for instance, that a neighbor’s concerns about school vouchers are satisfactorily addressed.

That kind of personalized operation early on, Mr. Dukakis believes, can keep voters from believing the worst when the Willie Horton and Swift Boat campaigns begin.

“There’s a chemistry there, which is hard to describe unless you’ve done it,” he said. “Otherwise, it permits your opponent to paint you as something you aren’t. It happened to me. It happened to Kerry. They tried to do it to Clinton. They’ll try to do it to anybody.”

Here’s how Mr. Dukakis broke down the struggle that Mr. Kerry—Mr. Dukakis’ lieutenant governor from 1983 to 1985—faced three years ago.

“You never had a sense that people felt personally connected to the guy, right? Had he had that kind of operation going nationally, there would have been a much stronger feeling of personal connection. Why? Because average folks in the neighborhood are out pushing him.”

Mr. Dukakis says he pleaded with Mr. Kerry to build a meaningful precinct-based organization in 2004, but couldn’t break through. Now he’s working informally with the Democratic National Committee, where Chairman Howard Dean—he of the 50-state strategy—is much more receptive to the concept. But so far, Mr. Dukakis said, none of the 2008 Democrats seem serious about his brand of organizing.

“The guy who ought to be doing it, above any of them, is Obama, because he’s probably got 300,000 contributors,” he notes. “Every one of those people, as soon as the contribution comes in: ‘Thank you and will you be a precinct captain?’ Or, ‘Thank you, this guy is your precinct captain—will you be one of his block captains?’”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 1988; 2008; barackhusseinobama; bush41; democrats; dukakis; electionpresident; elections; georgehwbush; gop; gotv; hillary; hillaryclinton; howarddean; michaeldukakis; obama; precincts; republicans; ronaldreagan; swiftboatvets; voters; wards; williehorton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a bitter old man.


21 posted on 08/22/2007 9:16:39 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: JCEccles

If I miss my guess, Americans are appalled by the freak show of the Dem congress. They are their own worst enemies.


22 posted on 08/22/2007 9:16:53 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: edcoil
I wonder if Mike is still a member of the ACLU ?

Poor baby, I bet the dastardly republicans made him drive that tank .... That commercial was priceless.

Swift boating? Poor Johnny Kerry, all those vets should be in re-education camps for what they did to poor Johnny.

23 posted on 08/22/2007 9:24:15 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Graymatter

I’ve been thinking Jimmy Carter ought to get in the race -
you know, “He’s tired, he’s wrinkled, and he’s ready...”


24 posted on 08/22/2007 9:26:26 PM PDT by aroostook war
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. Dukakis has the idea of replicating, on every street, avenue, and rural route in the country, the kind of personal relationships that once powered big-city political machines—with precinct captains calling on their neighbors every few weeks, asking them about their concerns, talking up their candidate and following up on any questions they might have

I wonder if even he believes this Sh*t. The "big-city machine" worked on the basis of graft and corruption--pure and simple. Screw your "concerns," I got a job for your worthless brother-in-law--don't forget it."

25 posted on 08/22/2007 9:28:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Fledermaus
"My goodness, what revisionist history. This writer makes the last couple of Reagan years sound like the administration was being beaten down by Darth Vader’s storm troopers! Democrats are so delusional."



Yep

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26 posted on 08/22/2007 9:31:27 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only a DUmmy would ever have believed that Michael Dukakis was responsible for a “Massachusetts Miracle”. Even the locals knew better and laughed at the idea.


27 posted on 08/22/2007 9:34:17 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He makes a point...as inept and goofy JF’nKerry is, he still got the most popular votes of anybody in history except GW.


28 posted on 08/22/2007 9:37:56 PM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: DesScorp

You are so right:

Debate #2
CNN’s Bernard Shaw opened the debate with this question to Gov. Dukakis:

“Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?”

Dukakis responded:

“No, I don’t, Bernard. And I think you know that I’ve opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don’t see any evidence that it’s a deterrent, and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. We’ve done so in my own state.”

Dukakis went on to talk about the drop in Massachusetts’ crime rate and segued into the need for international cooperation in the war against drugs.


29 posted on 08/22/2007 9:38:21 PM PDT by donna (Obama is a Moslem.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"...big-city political machines—with precinct captains calling on their neighbors every few weeks, asking them about their concerns, talking up their candidate and following up on any questions they might have..."

And following Hillary's lead by expressing interest in how your "kids" are doing, expressing sorrow for your missing cat and your slashed tires. Don't forget to vote "the right way...".


30 posted on 08/22/2007 9:40:52 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: PA-RIVER
Poor baby, I bet the dastardly republicans made him drive that tank .... That commercial was priceless.


31 posted on 08/22/2007 9:47:09 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
there are huge numbers of disaffected Republicans out there. Who says they won’t vote for us?
Right. We're disaffected because so much of the Republican Party leadership has become a bunch of brain-damaged liberals, and our disgust with the liberals in our party is going to lead us to go vote for a bunch of brain-damaged anti-American leftists. Sounds good to me. Where do I sign up for brain damage?
32 posted on 08/22/2007 10:00:01 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is actually misplaced pessimism on Dukakis’ part. Reagan was hugely popoular, with a 49-state 500+ electoral vote landslide four years earlier. Bush has done nothing remotely close.


33 posted on 08/22/2007 10:04:10 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: ClaireSolt; perfect_rovian_storm

I don’t know if his idea (city level politics applied on the national level) can be scaled up to the entire nation. However, considering that only about 10 states may be really in play it may be adopted for cities and counties where turnout counts.

I assume Hillary’s plan is “2004 + Ohio (+ whatever else can change color) = win”, we can probably hope for “2004 + Pennsylvania (+ whatever else can change color)”. So it should be relatively easy to map out where the turnout effort is most cost-effective. I think there is special software that Rove and Michael Barone and few strategists use for something like that. If not, then some kind of Google mashup could be used to map out, communicate and “paint” sections in real time. The rest is funding, organization and execution, i.e. right people in the right places - everything that was missing big time in 2006.


34 posted on 08/22/2007 10:15:51 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: edcoil
"And some crazy guy will blow up a building with three weeks to go, you know, and then we’ll be back in Bush-land again.”

Yep, those pesky non-religion-specific, ethnically-ambiguous non-terrorists do indeed have a habit of sabotaging the Dem's agenda for the nation...

35 posted on 08/22/2007 11:08:37 PM PDT by Skibane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s forgotten that Dukakis once united America - in laughter with that ad of him riding in the tank! I think he should have won an Emmy for that but not the presidency.


36 posted on 08/22/2007 11:40:46 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If we organized like Tammany Hall used to”

Tammany Hall organized and run like a mafia family. Is that how you want the Republican Party to be organized? Tammany Hall was a model of political corruption, bribery, and Union thuggery on call.

So who will be our Boss (Don) Tweed?

No thanks.


37 posted on 08/23/2007 12:42:59 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Boss Newt?


38 posted on 08/23/2007 12:46:00 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Michael Dukakis tried to hide his liberalism. It failed. Hillary will try to do the same. And boy - they are both hugely unlikeable.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 08/23/2007 12:49:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
“What a bitter old man.”

Yeah, but he looked so cute in that over sized helmet in the tank. I always wonder if the Sgt who gave him that to wear was given a promotion or a medal.

Can you see Hillary in the same pose/situation? She would look like Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis) in Space Balls. Would make our victory assured!

40 posted on 08/23/2007 12:51:59 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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