Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Kronemer is aware that Arab muslims took Spain by force of arms, but only a single sentence in this little love letter to historical islam acknowledges that stark reality: "The conquering Arab Muslims remained a minority for many years, but they were able to govern their Catholic and Jewish citizens by a policy of inclusiveness." Yes, they were conquerors, you see, but they were so enlightened!

Read this sycophantic panegyric to Al-Andalus if only to remind yourself of the lengths to which dhimmis (and PBS) will go to appease their islamic overlord-wannabes.

1 posted on 08/22/2007 12:29:13 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: snarks_when_bored

Ferdinand and Isabella: Badly in need of a sequel.


2 posted on 08/22/2007 12:33:59 PM PDT by CheyennePress
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

Why women don’t stand up against this islamic crap is a good question.


3 posted on 08/22/2007 12:35:38 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Allah is not Yahweh.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

I saw this earlier. Nice piece of Islamoganda.


4 posted on 08/22/2007 12:50:07 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

Kronemer’s selective and revisionist history creates a myth that Islamic Spain was a multi-cultural Utopia. This is a common theme among history-challenged liberals who seek to project upon Islamo-fascists their own liberal hopes for a multi-cultural paradise, which they are closer to if they can erode the dominant Christian culture. Which they work to do, step by step.

What these idiots cannot see is that an Islamist state is their worst nightmare theocracy.

Cultural relativism is for lazy minds. PBS should be ashamed, and defunded.


5 posted on 08/22/2007 1:07:00 PM PDT by VeloCon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

What a friggin idiot. There are so many stupid statements in this short article, it would take a week to correct them. The biggest of course is failure to recognize that the Reconquista was one of the great accomplishments of Western Civilization.


6 posted on 08/22/2007 1:11:00 PM PDT by stop_fascism
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored
Read this sycophantic panegyric to Al-Andalus if only to remind yourself of the lengths to which dhimmis (and PBS) will go to appease their islamic overlord-wannabes.

Unless this "history" includes the endless "resistance" to occupation during the entire 800 years of occupation by the heathens, it is in fact sandmaggot propaganda.

10 posted on 08/22/2007 7:36:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

This stuff makes me vomit.

Southern Spain was a very advanced area, Rome’s leading colony, and one that even provided a number of “Roman” writers, philosophers and emperors. After the collapse of Rome and the invasion of the barbarians, it remained an intellectual center, although beleaguered. When the barbarians converted and accepted orthodox Catholic beliefs (as opposed to Arianism), it resumed this position, and shortly before the Muslim invasion, St. Isidore of Sevilla wrote a compendium of “all human knowledge,” including Classical sources.

The Muslims who invaded, or at any rate, the ones who settled there were recently converted (at sword point) Baghdadis and Persians, both groups with very advanced pre-Islamic cultures. These cultures withered and died within about 100 years under the dead hand of Islam, but during a brief period, these rulers remained interested in Western and Asian, particularly Indian, learning. (India is the source for the concept of zero.)

Originally, they even permitted figurative art. However, these groups were considered heretical and were themselves driven out by orthodox North African Muslims.

Regardless of the ruler, Jews and Christians were enslaved and had to pay a special tax; Jews actually came out a little ahead, because most of Spain was Christian and the Muslims had need for slaves, which they took from the Christian areas rather than the smaller but wealthier Jewish communities, which they taxed heavily.

Both Jews and Christians, however, lived in a situation where the “tolerance” of Islam could be revoked at any moment and often was. The Muslims continued to make incursions throughout Spain from their southern territories, regularly collecting “protection” in the form of payments in money and young women and boys from the northern kingdoms.

Islam stifled and destroyed intellectual life. After the rather brief period where the Muslim rulers were running on their pre-Islamic cultures, things fell silent. The intellectual life of Spain was actually conducted from Toledo, under the hand of Alfonso XIII, who established the famous School of Translators, where Christian, Jewish and Arab-speaking translators worked at translating works ranging from Scripture to Aristotle to pre-Islamic Farsi and Arabic works.

The Muslim rulers lived in opulence and did whatever they wanted; the majority of the Muslim faithful who had been brought from Arab lands were impoverished peasants for whom Ferdinand and Isabel felt so sorry that they did not expel them. They were repaid by the fomenting of rebellion and attacks on Christian villages on the Mediterranean which finally resulted in all Muslims being expelled a few decades later.


13 posted on 09/03/2007 2:49:14 PM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: snarks_when_bored

PBS stinks as bad as the History Channel who, in keeping with their PC policy, used white actors to portray 18th century African cannibals in one of their documentaries. Always question the authenticity of the subject matter that is presented in their shows. They have insidious intent.


23 posted on 09/05/2007 6:17:58 AM PDT by libbybelle (coffee is for closers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson