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[Fred]Thompson Brings Gun Control to the Fore (Knocks Rudy on 2nd Amendment)
The New York Times ^ | August 22, 2007 | Michael Cooper

Posted on 08/21/2007 9:04:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Former Senator Fred D. Thompson of Tennessee, who has not officially declared his presidential ambitions, took a not-very-veiled swipe yesterday at the leading Republican candidate, former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York, for supporting gun control.

Mr. Thompson, who starred in “Law & Order,” wrote on his Web site: “When I was working in television, I spent quite a bit of time in New York City. There are lots of things about the place I like, but New York gun laws don’t fall in that category.”

Then he decried a recent court ruling on a gun case, writing that “the same activist federal judge from Brooklyn who provided Mayor Giuliani’s administration with the legal ruling it sought to sue gun makers, has done it again.”

The critique amounted to an unusual dive into presidential politicking for a man who is barred under federal rules from acting like a candidate. Mr. Thompson is officially only “testing the waters” of a presidential bid, a status that limits his ability to raise money and engage in active campaigning. But his comments suggest that he is ready to come out against the other contenders in the Republican field.

In his comments, Mr. Thompson went on to suggest that high gun ownership rates may be related to the nation’s low violent crime rates.

The Giuliani campaign responded. “Those who live in New York in the real world — not on TV — know that Rudy Giuliani’s record of making the city safe for families speaks for itself,” said Katie Levinson, the Giuliani campaign’s communications director. “No amount of political theater will change that.”

Mr. Giuliani has been leading consistently in national polls of the Republican field. But his status has also opened him up to increasing scrutiny.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: WFTR

I concur but Hunter can’t seem to get up enough support.
The next best thing would be Thompson - Hunter ticket.


21 posted on 08/22/2007 12:14:36 AM PDT by squibs
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT!


22 posted on 08/22/2007 12:29:44 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: stockstrader
Let’s hope liberal Rudy keeps responding anytime anyone brings up the Second Amendment.

Fred has been bringing up the 2nd Amendment - even though nobody has asked him about it - with clockwork regularity.

Meanwhile, getting ANY kind of response to a firearm-related question out of the other front-runners is like getting blood out of a rock!

What does that tell you?

23 posted on 08/22/2007 12:53:31 AM PDT by Skibane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ventanax5; All
“The Constitution of the United States says that you have a personal right to carry arms, to have arms.” - Rudy Giuliani

If it has to do something with the Constitution of the United States, don't be shy about checking the appropriate sidebar, whatever it is, in this case frontpage.

I can't tell you all of the times that I see commentaries, whether masthead editorials, i.e. staff editorials without bylines, or regular OpEd, i.e. opinion/editorial, columns for a newspaper such as David Brooks for the NY Times which were not checked off for the editorial sidebar.

Many conservative and libertarian websites write excellent commentaries and sometimes frontpage or breaking news.

Those sidebars are there for a reason. Please use them when appropriate. I find that I can add these articles to sidebars by clicking on "TOPICS" after the article. Then you can enter those terms in lower case letters, and they will appear in the appropriate sidebar.

24 posted on 08/22/2007 1:45:50 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: SC- Husker
revered lawmen figures like Wyatt Earp

I think the old west history buffs will tell you Earp was not a revered lawman.

25 posted on 08/22/2007 2:45:38 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: CheyennePress
Not a major issue for me, but for others...

not a major issue for you because you are a Romney fan, and Romney is anti Second Amendment

26 posted on 08/22/2007 2:49:17 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m for Hunter since Thompson hasn’t declared. That said, there are the people who cling to this idea that Guiliani is the only one who can beat hillary. Guiliani IS hillary. There are no differences except for one looks slightly better in a dress.

Guiliani’s time to beat hillary was during the senate race and he blew it. He doesn’t deserve another chance at a higher office.

Guiliani is not the conservatives choice. He’s been the media’s choice and that’s why better candidates like Hunter can’t get any attention.


27 posted on 08/22/2007 5:02:23 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rudy & The Brady Bunch

I'm more and more impressed by Fred Thompson, how about you?

I'm liking it a lot. Fred moves up in my estimation.

I've been disappointed more of the Republican candidates haven't gone after him his anti-gun policies and his history of consorting with and standing with so many enemies of the Second. Like being the only GOP supporter of the AWBan. Like being at the signing ceremony in the Rose Garden when Xlinton was celebrating it.
28 posted on 08/22/2007 5:06:27 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
29 posted on 08/22/2007 5:32:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I’ll take Fred over Rudy any day.


30 posted on 08/22/2007 5:44:47 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

31 posted on 08/22/2007 6:10:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: WFTR
It's great to see Fred take some political shots at Rudy liberal positions.

I'd like to see more focus on ALL of Guiliani's liberal positions--as Guiliani's disdain for many conservative principles and values need to be highlighted. His discomfort was highlighted in the first debate when he looked like a fool answering the abortion question.

Watching Rudy address his big government gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-Federal funding for abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-sanctuary cities, global warming, pro-litigation and gay rights crusading makes Rudy look more nervous than Bill Clinton in church!!..lol

Let's hope Fred turns up the pressure on ALL of Rudy's liberal positions!! Go Fred, Go!!

32 posted on 08/22/2007 6:12:35 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Those who live in New York in the real world????

Yea, real world. This extended campaigning season is actually great for exposing the real person. Guiliani, you $***!

33 posted on 08/22/2007 6:16:15 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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Fred Thompson bump!


34 posted on 08/22/2007 6:22:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: stevio
This extended campaigning season is actually great for exposing the real person.

Bingo!! It exposes Rudy's natural liberalism with his SLAM ON FRED BEING AN ACTOR!!!

It sure didn't take long for the tiresome 'ACTOR CARD' to be played against Fred,,,,just like liberals played the 'ACTOR CARD' against Ronald Reagan.

I can't believe that Rudy has ALREADY stooped to that liberal stance,,,,but then again, it's not like Rudy didn't try to distance himself from Reagan in the past.

Playing the 'ACTOR CARD' was something I expected from the democrats. Rudy is absolutely SHAMELESS to play that card, but then again, why am I surprised? He IS a LIBERAL.

35 posted on 08/22/2007 6:29:30 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: SC- Husker

know a lot of history buffs and law and order types are on Free Republic and I have a question regarding gun control 2nd Ammendment and such. History tells us in the late 1800’s revered lawmen figures like Wyatt Earp banned guns within city limits of their city (Dodge) how was this accepted (legality ?) and can this be compared to Rudy and his stance on guns when he was Mayor of NYC ?


Why do you assume that Earp was a good guy, had good intentions, or that his ban (if true) was beneficial to the community?


36 posted on 08/22/2007 7:18:16 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: CheyennePress

Fred Thompson has had some rather spotty gun votes in his tenure. To name a few...


Fred has been solid on guns, with the exception of the prohibition on guns for domestic violence violators (note how your GOA blurb shades the truth of that fact.)

Your other one is “Inside DC” trivia, and as irrelevant as all the other GOA smears you omitted (like pretending that letting a Clinton Surgeon General nomination go to a vote on the Senate floor is “anti-gun.”)

I am rabidly pro gun, and Fred impresses me most by his expression of the principle that gun-control is about authoritarianism.

Certainly, he is better than any President in my lifetime on the gun issue, and he is miles better than any current contender.

Huckabee and Hunter might take solid pro-gun stands, but only Freed has the talent to express the position in a way that can win over people in the middle, making gun rights sound reasonable and non-threatening.


37 posted on 08/22/2007 7:23:57 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s not forget Mittens Romney when he talk about gungrabbers.


38 posted on 08/22/2007 7:28:44 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: stockstrader

It’s great to see Fred take some political shots at Rudy liberal positions.


Here is a good campaign strategy for Fred:

Run against Rudy now. Ignore Mitt (his real competition) and merely demonstrate that he is more conservative. (Mitt would just say “but I agree with you Fred” anyway, so others can remind voters about Mitt’s expeditious conversion.)

It will demonstrate his capability to run against Hillary.


39 posted on 08/22/2007 7:28:56 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: budwiesest

“...The second ammendment was written to help us identify America’s traitors...”

Well hit! Outta the park!


40 posted on 08/22/2007 7:31:22 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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