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Misleading NYT/Globe Articles Portray Income Growth as Income Decline
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/21/2007 4:08:23 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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Times-Globe lying-with-statistics ping to Today show list.
1 posted on 08/21/2007 4:08:26 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Times-Globe lying-with-statistics ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 08/21/2007 4:08:49 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Sure they're playing numbers games. But. It's that "adjusted for inflation". Lot's of people like to use that to show that we are better off but when it shows that we are losing ground it's dismissed.

Note that fuel and food costs are figured in the CPI. Those are "special" numbers that are excluded because they are deemed too volatile. I think it's time to change that. Propane has gone up 120% in five years and orange juice is now $8/gal.

3 posted on 08/21/2007 4:17:54 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
Note that fuel and food costs are figured in the CPI.

Are NOT figured into the CPI.

4 posted on 08/21/2007 4:18:51 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Like the saying goes: There are lies, damn lies and statistics.


5 posted on 08/21/2007 4:22:16 AM PDT by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The NYT and the Globe are what? Newspapers? Does anyone read them anymore? Perhaps stuff like this is the reason why most folks get their news elsewhere.


6 posted on 08/21/2007 4:27:22 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I remember starting to read that article as I thought it was an incredulous assumption. I remember reading only to the point in which the author(s) expressed increased population, which is dilution, thus their figures and went on to some other articles looking for something intelligent to cleanse my brain.

Perhaps I should have read the whole thing, but at the time it seemed I would be ruining my day.


7 posted on 08/21/2007 4:28:12 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: deaconjim
The NYT and the Globe are what?

Dog cage lines, except for those owners whose dogs have cancelled their subscriptions.

8 posted on 08/21/2007 4:36:52 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Freee-dame

Thank goodness for the sanity of newsbusters articles, and for their intent to expose the media’s lies.


9 posted on 08/21/2007 4:37:18 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: raybbr
[b]Note that fuel and food costs are figured in the CPI.[/b] Are NOT figured into the CPI

You were right the first time. You've been making this mistake for years now even though you are constantly corrected. Why do you persist? Could it be intentional?

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10 posted on 08/21/2007 5:12:41 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

For contrast, the Investors Business Daily has a very positive take on the current sconomic situation.

“Our economy’s core soundness was reflected in this month’s IBD/TIPP survey. In spite of the serious problems associated with subprime mortgages, the IBD/TIPP Optimism Index rose by 2.6% to 49.5, its highest since March and just below the make-or-break optimism threshold of 50. Lower gas prices, rising incomes and low unemployment kept consumers’ spirits high.
Dovetailing with our findings was a remarkable Harris Poll of about 1,000 adults polled in July published last week. It showed no less than 94% of Americans expressing satisfaction with their lives. Well over half of those polled — 56% — said they were very satisfied. Satisfaction is up from surveys in 2003 and 2005.

“More than half of the respondents — 54% — said their own situation has improved over the past five years. Three out of five — 62% — expected things to get better over the next five years.

“The long-term trust those numbers reflect are a welcome counterbalance to last week’s University of Michigan consumer sentiment preliminary index, which fell to its lowest since August 2006.”

Reasons For Cheer
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, August 20, 2007 4:20 PM PT

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=272501399469132


11 posted on 08/21/2007 5:15:03 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

there was one article in some MSM paper that stated: “50% of american families below median income level.”


12 posted on 08/21/2007 5:30:49 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

I like this one: “100% of Mainstream Media is full of shiite”.


13 posted on 08/21/2007 5:40:29 AM PDT by Stallone (Free Republic - The largest collection of volunteer Freedom Fighters the world has ever known)
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To: raybbr

Technically then, it was not the income that failed to increase, it was the spending power of that income when adjusted for inflation. Or they should have qualified the headline “... in constant 2000 dollars” or some other such baseline. And we have yet to feel the full inflationary impact of the minimum wage increase.


14 posted on 08/21/2007 6:25:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Mase

Where is “fuel” in your chart?


15 posted on 08/21/2007 6:29:05 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Similar thread: NYT Lie
16 posted on 08/21/2007 6:35:59 AM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Mase

What the Fed Does

People expect that, by regulating the money supply, the Federal Reserve will be able to keep consumer prices stable... and also to keep the economy growing at a reasonable rate and to keep unemployment low. That's already more "goals" than "controls", which would result in some pretty schizophrenic marching orders. For example, if OPEC announces that they plan to cut oil output in order to drive prices up, should the Fed raise interest rates to fight inflation... or see the higher oil prices as a recessionary factor, and maybe even think about lowering interest rates?

To see the answer, just notice that this isn't really a monetary problem: the higher oil prices aren't the result of too much easy money. That means that restricting the money supply wouldn't be a fix, so the Fed won't raise interest rates.

This example shows why energy prices are one of the special indices that get excluded from the Core CPI numbers: energy prices are volatile enough that when they change it doesn't tell you very much about the rate of inflation overall.

 

Food and beverages
Housing
Apparel
Transportation
Medical care
Recreation
Education and communication
Other goods and services
Total CPI
  - Energy
  - Food
Special Indexes
Total CPI  minus  Special Indexes Core CPI

 

17 posted on 08/21/2007 6:36:45 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Average” is often a bad measure. It includes the super-wealthy and their dot-com gains dragging the 2000 numbers up.

“Median” is more like the usual American, the guy exactly in the middle.

That the NYT reported the Average not the Median probably means the Median has been rising nicely, thank you very much.


18 posted on 08/21/2007 6:46:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: raybbr

That would be included in “Housing” and “Transportation”


19 posted on 08/21/2007 10:33:48 AM PDT by jurroppi1 ("You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think." - Milton Berle)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Why, that’s outrageous!

At least 90% of the incomes should be more than the median income!


20 posted on 08/21/2007 11:05:51 AM PDT by MikeHu
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