Criticism of a Gender Theory, and a Scientist Under Siege (Trannies POed at Scientist)

NY Times ^ | 8-21-07 | BENEDICT CAREY

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..The hostilities began in the spring of 2003, when Dr. Bailey published a book, “The Man Who Would Be Queen,” intended to explain the biology of sexual orientation and gender to a general audience...

[snip]....[snip]

In his book, he argued that some people born male who want to cross genders are driven primarily by an erotic fascination with themselves as women. This idea runs counter to the belief, held by many men who decide to live as women, that they are the victims of a biological mistake — in essence, women trapped in men’s bodies. Dr. Bailey described the alternate theory, which is based on Canadian studies done in the 1980s and 1990s, in part by telling the stories of several transgender women he met through a mutual acquaintance. In the book, he gave them pseudonyms, like “Alma” and “Juanita.”......"

[Anti-Bubba182]

Of course there would be trouble! One thing you can say about Trannie men is that they are committed. They can't stand a theory that says the motivation is erotic fascination and not, "women trapped in men’s bodies".

They have to say this somehow natural.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

If we could figure out how to stop the obvious programming loop going on with some people, it may solve a lot of obsessive-compulsive issues.

[SteveMcKing]

I think it’s mainly endocrine problems. Abnormal levels of certain hormones... over- or insensitivity to them in sexual development.

This can be caused by disease, or by self-induced neurological feedback. Behavior affects your chemistry- if you work yourself into a certain state, then your body responds to it.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"... then your body responds to it."

And you go to a surgeon and have it sliced.

[SteveMcKing]

Glandular tumors can do it, and those need to be treated. Then there are hormone therapies too.

[14themunny]

I don’t know if I’d want a bunch of angry trannies coming after me. I’d pretty much tell them what they wanted to hear.

[ConservativeMind]

In his book, he argued that some people born male who want to cross genders are driven primarily by an erotic fascination with themselves as women.

I have thought this for many years. I believe they are so enamored with women that they want to become one. Not only that, I believe they want to be able to feel the pleasures they imagine must be much deeper than that which a man can feel

[Republic_of_Secession.]

Not to mention the controversial distinction between transvestite & transsexual. The former is generally considered the “erotic” fixation while the latter is considered a personal or mental fixation.

[Enchante]

oops - a researcher says that freaks are, well, freaks..... and that’s just too politically incorrect for them to accept!

[irv]

I don’t know if I’d want a bunch of angry trannies coming after me.

Really! Testosterone and PMS! Talk about amazon warriors! (shudder)

[neverdem]

thanks, bfl

[kaehurowing]

“[snip]....[snip]”

Indeed.

[ari-freedom]

Yes there are all kinds of freaks. The transgender freak isn't that much different from someone who feels he isn't complete unless he looks like...

[hocndoc]

I’ve read the first 10 pages of Dreger’s report. He said/he said history of harassment and plain old mean-ness.

Just weird.

[Beckwith]

You can’t change your chromosomes.

[Caipirabob]

They have to say this somehow natural.

They have to do something to keep themselves diverted from thinking about the living nightmare they have become.

The people who encourage this process are no better than Doctor Mengele.

[olezip]

In his book, he argued that some people born male who want to cross genders are driven primarily by an erotic fascination with themselves as women.

This is right on! I suspect that his assertion is supported by interviews with trannies. The movie "Silence of the Lambs" has a wierdo in the movie who seems to be driven by an erotic fascination with himself as a woman. The biological mistake argument is nonsense, IMO.

[camle]

so... his research shows that perverts are driven by perverted notions to do perverted things...

who’d a thunk?

[SkyPilot]

But days after the book appeared, Lynn Conway, a prominent computer scientist at the University of Michigan, sent out an e-mail message comparing Dr. Bailey’s views to Nazi propaganda. She and other transgender women found the tone of the book abusive, and the theory of motivation it presented to be a recipe for further discrimination.

Well, I see it didn't take long for these perverts to adhere to Godwin's Law.

Also, "trangendered women" is not the correct term for these people.

The proper description is "evil twisted men in drag."