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This thesis doesn’t fit with the current transfer of money to farmers.
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But, but, but... biofuel SOUNDS green! Isn’t that what’s really important?
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And that, my friend, is the reason this story will go nowhere here. Archer Daniels Midland owns too many congressmen.
Don’t you just love how these liberals and their bourgeois solutions keep winding up to be a big slong up their arrogant derrieres .
But they will never stop because they have found a mechanism by which they can forcibly extract breathtaking sums of money from the American taxpayer and consumer, regardless of the scientific validity of their position.....as long as it is based upon a suitably frightening premise ("The world is heating up and all of the polar bears will drown!") coupled with a "compassionate" message ("We're going to rescue you from those Evil, Racist, Homophobic, Polluting Republicans whether you like it or not!")
Oh! I loved the latest jewel where the global warming was going to bring on an ice age.
Are liberals about to admit that we need to go nuclear?
Biofuel from saltwater algae does not require tractors, fertilizers, land, or fresh water. The farm "land" is 70% of Earth's surface, is flat, undeveloped, not currently owned, and not a tree to clear in sight.
Ethanol production from corn (our food now costs a lot more) is one of the dumbest ideas in the last few hundred years!
Distinguished Greens???
Hey, all I see is a major axe to grind. The immediate release of carbon referred to above is for the slash and burn practices in the rainforests. Yep, and he is dedicated to preserving the rainforests... Plus, increased CO2 in the atmosphere increases growth in the rainforest - so I can see why they would want to see continued burning of sequestered carbon from the oil and coal.
While corn and sugar cane ethanol isn’t the whole answer, cellulosic ethanol and butanol with current technology can produce about 700 gallons/acre/year with hybrid poplars vs aboout 450 gallons for corn. Advances in this technology could up that to about 1,000 gallons/acre - and our entire liquid fuel needs in the US could be produced on 180 million acres of unused farmland and conservation reserve land.
Hmmmmm, 150 Billion short rotation trees planted, harvested every 3-5 years, and they re-sprout from the stump for the next crop - see, he gets more trees, and we get the liquid fuel we need - seems like a win win to me.
Oh, then there is the myth of the energy balance - (oh, yes, and there are those tractors to run) Geesh - if you want to gripe about something, how about how many barrels of oil it takes to move a tanker one mile...(I have read that a barrel will move the QE II about 6 inches - I hate to think what a tanker takes.) but, I guess they will see what they want to see.
Now, if the Greenies and the NIMBY’s (Not In My Back Yard) would allow trees to be planted and processing plants to be built, we could tell the OPEC members to bug-off. Oh, and our dear legislators... dumb and dumber is all I can say for them. Want an example? Try this - Power plants can burn chicken litter at high temperatures with much less pollution than the coal they now burn - our legislators nixed that completely, BUT they put in a provision that would allow each chicken farm to burn the litter from their own chicken houses - no controls! He he he, so what did I suggest? Hey, I’ll start a business generating electricity from portable incinerators and move them from farm to farm... Boy, did that shake them up - of course they would legislate that practice out of existence in a heartbeat.
-—well—judging by the six trips I’ve made to Korn Kountry in the last eight months (Wisconsin, generally through Nebraska and Iowa) the folks who raise corn are pretty much abiding by this—there is almost no evidence of bio-fuel or ethanol usage in the planting, cultivation or processing of corn-—it’s still almost exclusively diesel-—
Golly gee, where would they find an E85 burning high capacity tractor? Guess they will just have to keep burning the biodiesel from soybeans like many farmers around here are doing (looks the same when they are using it), but that raises the cost of that tofu and vegie-burgers the Vegan greenies thrive on.
What should be done with our huge corn surplses?
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Exactly. It's too late. The fix is in. Now, anyone who tries to tell the truth and reverse this stupidity will be labeled "anti-farmer." It's actually, "anti-ADM."
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