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Can Those with an Invisible Illness Park in the Blue Spots without Others Seeing Red?
Christian News Wire ^ | August 20, 2007 | Lisa Copen

Posted on 08/20/2007 7:41:24 AM PDT by Between the Lines

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To: sharkhawk

Why do you need a handicapped spot? Simply drop your mother off right at the front door of the store, and park in a regular spot.


281 posted on 08/20/2007 8:07:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: PeteB570

Bump


282 posted on 08/20/2007 8:10:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Xenalyte

I am on both sides of this. I had a placard for a while, and really needed it some days. It gives you an appreciation of why the blues stalls are there.

A few times I was questioned, but it was normally polite. Once it was not, and I think that person will never question anyone again.

I have also questioned people a few times and turned in many more. Never had a real confrontation, and I know several placards were confiscated.


283 posted on 08/20/2007 9:04:02 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: doorgunner69

put a bunch of thumbtacks in your shoe, then walk a fair distance. you’ll see what I mean;-)

I know a lady who has degenerating hips and has been in constant pain for the last two years. her most comfortable gait is almost a trot. and she still hurts.


284 posted on 08/21/2007 3:15:21 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Between the Lines

What I don’t get is all those handicapped parking spaces at The Home Depot. If you’re loading up a cart of 2x4’s and plywood........you’re not friggin’ handicapped.


285 posted on 08/21/2007 3:19:56 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Godebert

I’m handicapped and use the HC spaces at Home Depot regularly. Home Depot has a great gardening department. And if something is too bulky or heavy for me to load it up the clerks are great about taking care of it for me. And they usually appreciate the tip.

Come to think of it I guess I need to run to Home Depot at lunch. I don’t need any plywood but could use a small box of 1 1/2 inch sheetrock screws.


286 posted on 08/21/2007 8:41:17 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: RGSpincich

>>>>>>>>>>>> add paranoid to the list!

Uh... no, people have actually SAID this to me... including relatives. I just didn’t want to name names in my editorial :)

Lisa Copen


287 posted on 08/23/2007 11:15:51 AM PDT by LisaCopen
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To: ConservativeMind

Not 1 in 2 NEED placards... but illness is much more prevalent than we all are led to believe. There are thousands of illnesses doctors can’t cure and until you have one, you are led to believe that pretty much anything can be cured with a few drugs.


288 posted on 08/23/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by LisaCopen
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To: sinanju

Statistics are here:

http://www.restministries.org/invisibleillness/statistics.htm

Specifically:
Various studies have reported that physical illness or uncontrollable physical pain are major factors in up to 70% of suicides;
Mackenzie TB, Popkin MK: “Suicide in the medical patient.”. Intl J Psych in Med 17:3-22, 1987


289 posted on 08/23/2007 11:21:12 AM PDT by LisaCopen
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To: MEGoody

Thank you for your kind comments. I have to stop reading the board—as people as so rude and judgemental. I actually am not as sensitive to all of this as I once was, and writing it made me feel a bit like a whiner... but I needed to get the message heard...and this was a way to do it, because so many people have experienced the same things and feel so alone.
Appreciated your support

Lisa Copen

She’s “hearing” anonymous whispers.
And your point is? People say things like this all the time. I couldn’t believe some of the stuff I heard when I was out somewhere with my SIL who had blown up like a baloon due to medication she was on.

Not just once, she speaks as though it happens every time she gets her kid out of the car.

I didn’t read it as though she was claiming it happened every time, just that she was bracing herself for it every time. Believe me, I braced myself for the comments any time I went out with my SIL.

She sounds paranoid to me.

Then you’ve been very blessed never to have endured the kinds of things she and my SIL endured.


290 posted on 08/23/2007 11:35:53 AM PDT by LisaCopen
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

>>I feel sorry for the author’s ailments, but the original intent of Handicapped Parking Spaces were to provide additional space to maneuver for those confined to a wheelchair. Not so they could get a closer parking space to the store!<<

That was my impression as well. I have used handicapped parking spots in the past, but only with my walker-shuffling elderly blind grandmother who takes a good bit of manuvering to get out of the car.

Here’s my question. If one has an invisible pain related illness such that one is so crippled that they must park in the spot abosolutely nearest to the store, how do they function IN the store?

Target, for example, is the size of a huge parking lot. Most grocery stores are gigantic as well. Are people really expecting me to believe that they can walk a mile INSIDE the store, but can’t get twenty feet to the door?


291 posted on 08/23/2007 12:41:22 PM PDT by Shion (Hunter 2008! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: LisaCopen; MEGoody
writing it made me feel a bit like a whiner...

Don't fight it...

292 posted on 08/23/2007 5:31:15 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: SandyInSeattle

I resent that fact that some on this post have stated that those using a handicapped parking space or obese, or lazy. I would gladly give my pain to someone else. Those who do not live daily with pain, chronic fatigue and other illnesses will never get it. It seems that we are talking to the most uneducated individuals ever.
We don’t have big gapping sores on our face to show that we have a disability. You can not see MS, Cancer, Heart Disease.
So be nice, it could happen to you. Then see if you need a handicapped space or not.


293 posted on 08/27/2007 9:19:05 PM PDT by Stargaza
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To: listenhillary

1/4 of the US population is mentally ill.


So spend an evening with three of your friends. If they seem ok than it’s you!


294 posted on 08/27/2007 9:24:28 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Between the Lines
You can thank George Herbert Walker Bush for this handicapped parking place abomination.

What really frosts me is watching these handicapped sticker people driving.

They assume that the handicapped sticker gives them the right-of-way.

They also declare their own handicapped parking places anywhere they goddam well please.

They think that the sticker means that we all have to bow and scrape.

Pisses me off.

295 posted on 08/27/2007 9:28:11 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Brujo
I lost all respect for the system after the nth time I saw someone
zip into a handicapped spot, put up the tag, jump out of the
car and run into the mall.


I know it's a "Big Brother" solution.
BUT, at the least the signs warning about the penalty for abusing
the handicap parking scheme...should post an extra sign saying that
the parking area is under video surveillance and that tickets may
be issued if such conduct is recorded.

All that would have to be done is put such a system at a few
random locations and do said enforcement...on the fakers that
do the wind-sprint in and out of the bidness.

Word would get around to the cheaters when a few of their ilk
get some high-fine tickets in the mail. And can't fight it because
of incontrivertible video evidence.
296 posted on 08/27/2007 9:34:04 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Stargaza

Take a deep breath and reread my post, please. You’ve completely misinterpreted what I typed.


297 posted on 08/27/2007 9:44:06 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Stargaza

Welcome to FR, by the way.

First day, I see.


298 posted on 08/27/2007 9:47:49 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Let me just tell you something. I was in the prime of my life in Graduate School working on a Doctorate seeing patients 4 days a week. I worked out everyday even when I didn’t feel like it and I’m a vegetarian. I was in peak physical condition when I was struck by Lupus. So tell me if your such a genius what was it I was doing wrong that caused it. Oh wait you don’t have an answer for that one. Now I’m no longer able to stay in school fighting for my life everyday! I have nearly died twice in the last year. All I’m saying is why don’t you take a look at what you said. Now think about this happening to you or someone in your family God forbid. Do you really think we are asking for it? Because even though I may not have that many days left on this earth I still am trying to make a difference in this world! This post is for all of us fighting the pain, the tears, the despair, but also the joys in life that keep us moving forward! Also, to those who have lost the fight waiting for a cure!


299 posted on 09/04/2007 6:25:04 PM PDT by lupusstar (?!Really?!)
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To: lupusstar
This is what I said:

Nearly 1 in 2 Americans (133 million) live with a chronic illness.

At that rate, we’ll need to make half of all parking lots handicap accessible only spots.

I’m sorry, but the majority of these problems ironically come from the lack of exercise and poor eating habits.

Perhaps we ought to put everyone’s handicap place, save for those who have an actual cane or chair, on the outskirts of the parking lot.

Now, I didn’t say that everyone’s problems are from a lack of exercise or poor eating habits, did I? At least you were trying to stay healthy. Can you honestly say that the majority of people take the pains you did to prevent a chronic problem? I would think not.

I’m sorry you have such a problem, but to attack someone who is simply stating that the majority of people with chronic problems (obesity, heart conditions, diabetes, etc.) greatly or completely encouraged their situation by their own bad choices over time, is ridiculous.

Get over yourself. My comments stand.

300 posted on 09/04/2007 7:12:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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