Posted on 08/19/2007 5:35:45 PM PDT by blam
Carbon Dating? Gross!
Interesting. Thanks.
yup.. that’s handy.. Could we assume that the groundwater (springs) would have been at least 50% lower than today’s levels? (sink holes make great paleolithic garbage pits...)
Isn’t it a little precarious to be born in a sinkhole??
susie
Another site on ice age Florida artifacts:
http://dhr.dos.state.fl.us/facts/reports/contexts/paleo.cfm
MEET THE WORLD'S OLDEST--AND HARDEST WORKING--PLANT
Mystery and questions still surround the box huckleberry (sweeter than the wild blueberry.
No one knows for sure how it got here. Since it doesn't reproduce sexually as most plants do, how did distant colonies form?
One theory is that the existing colonies are all that's left of a once more numerous glacial plant.
James C. Parks, a Millersville University biology professor is inclined to accept another theory. Though no viable seeds from box huckleberries have ever been found in the wild, fertile seeds have resulted from people manually transferring pollen from one plant to another colony.
Perhaps, once in a blue moon, a pollinated seed does make its way, perhaps by a bird, launching another colony.
Nor is there unanimity about how old huckleberry plants are. They have no rings to count, like trees. Carbon dating doesn't work. Estimates are based on how much the plant grows in a year.
Especially in Florida, anything that old is likely underwater now. So finding people-related stuff in 30-40 foot water is not hat surprising.
There are people looking for archaeological sites in the Gulf of Mexico, and I heard that some research is starting in the Long Island Sound, because 10,000 years ago it was a valley where native Americans probably lived.
Yup.
We have a number of wild varieties of huckleberry - blueberries around here. I ate them often with cream and sugar in my youth.
I would be interested in knowing why radiocarbon dating doesn't work.
I would like to see what the C13 ratio was. Maybe also the N15 ratio.
My first guess is radiocarbon dating doesn't work well because what is being dated is too young, and post-atomic. That's enough to mess any radiocarbon date up.
Any more information?
YEC INTREP
Thanks, pally - I bin lookin' for that article for four years ................. FRegards
No info found. Your theories work, however.
Huckleberry 13,000 years (Wherry 1972): One single plant clone -one plant theory- endlessly sending out root suckers...as you said new aka young..still considered a mystery. But then in its' form, it is not charred. Would guess would be comparison or relative dating to some other organic find. But then that does not make sense to me, whereas, I am not as scholar-ed as you.
I did a story in FR while back on the plant with the oldest dna.. Oldest DNA ever recovered shows warmer planet: report
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