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Penny foolish
The Buffalo News ^ | August 19, 2007 | By Dibya Sarkar - ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 08/19/2007 5:26:08 PM PDT by Larry R. Johnson

U.S.’s dilemma: It costs 1.7 cents to make a penny Maker of zinc blanks fear end of the coin By Dibya Sarkar - ASSOCIATED PRESS Updated: 08/19/07 7:18 AM

WASHINGTON — The U.S. penny is not what it appears to be, and some in Congress would like to see it change further, if not disappear entirely. Because of a surge in the price of copper, the U.S. Mint decided 25 years ago to manufacture the coins almost entirely with zinc, save for the coating on which Abraham Lincoln’s profile is engraved.

Now, the fate of the penny is up in the air once again. With the price of zinc soaring amid a worldwide commodities boom, it costs the government about 1.7 cents to make each 1-cent coin — a pretty penny considering roughly 8 billion new ones are placed into circulation annually.

While it is unlikely the penny will be pulled from circulation, there are some lawmakers who would like to ditch zinc as a raw material and instead use steel or some other less expensive metal.

The nation’s sole supplier of zinc “penny blanks,” Jarden Zinc Products, is lobbying the federal government to protect its interests.

The subsidiary of Rye, N.Y.- based Jarden Corp., last year paid $180,000 to the law firm Baker & Daniels to fight legislation that would have allowed retailers to round off cash transactions to the nearest nickel, effectively creating a penniless society. Fortunately for Jarden, the House legislation did not gain traction, and its author, Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., has since retired.

In the past two weeks, however, bills in the House and Senate were proposed that would give the Treasury Department the power to decide — without congressional approval — the type of metals used for all coins. The bills’ authors said using cheaper metals to make pennies and nickels, which incidentally cost an estimated 10 cents each to produce, could save taxpayers $100 million annually.

It’s just common sense to give the Treasury that power “so we no longer have to spend so much money making our money,” Sen. Wayne Allard, R-Colo., a bill co-sponsor, said in a statement.

Jarden’s lobbyist in Washington, Mark Weller of the law firm Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal, said House staffers recently assured him the latest bills won’t open the door to another effort to rid the penny. “We’re satisfied, but we need to stay on top of that,” Weller said.

A federal disclosure form filed Tuesday shows that Jarden spent up to $10,000 in the first half of 2007 on lobbying expenses.

A spokesman for Jarden Zinc, which is based in Greeneville, Tenn., declined to comment for the story.

Francois Velde, a senior economist with the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, said the federal government should rid the U.S. currency of pennies, or at the very least find a cheaper way to make them. Velde noted that equivalent coins in Canada, the United Kingdom and Europe are made from steel, which is roughly five times less expensive than zinc.

Weller said Jarden, which produces coin blanks for more than two dozen countries, is “agnostic” about the penny’s metal content.

“Should Congress or the Mint suggest a different metal composition, like copper-plated steel or copper-plated aluminum, I’m sure Jarden would be interested in talking to the Mint about their capabilities,” he said.

Jarden has been paid more than $170 million from 2004 to 2006 under a contract with the Mint, which places monthly orders, Mint spokesman Michael White said in an e-mail. The contract, which can be extended through September 2008, cannot exceed $450 million total, he added.

The Mint spent nearly $100 million manufacturing pennies in 2006, based on a 1.2 cent perpenny cost at the time. The cost has risen to 1.7 cents per coin in 2007, according to the Mint.

Since March 2003, global demand for core metals has driven up the price of zinc 450 percent, lawmakers said.

Weller, who has long lobbied for the penny with a group called Americans for Common Cents, argues the penny is good for the economy. Its absence, he said, would lead retailers to raise prices, influencing inflation. Weller also said past polls have shown a majority of Americans favor the coin, which was first produced in the United States in the 1790s.

Velde said he isn’t aware of any widespread movement in Congress, or elsewhere, calling for its demise.

“We are talking about small change,” he said. “It’s not something people get extremely


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coinage; pennies; penny; treasury
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I love the penny, in fact I love nickels,dimes, quarters, halves (most won't remember them) dollars: silver, Suzie B's, squawbucks and president dollars. I've loved earning them, spending them and collecting them. What kind of sense does it make to keep making pennies that cost more than a penny. The heck with some gov't paid company that sells zinc blanks to the treasury. Let them go galvanize something. The heck with these wimpy politicians, too. Either ditch the penny (round up, round down, what's the difference)or make it from steel, ceramic or cow dung, just save a few millions of the taxpayers dough. And while we're at it, let's get rid of that stupid, expensive, shortlived carrier of all kinds of germs, that filthy everybody's hankie, the paper dollar. Let's use those great metal dollars, be it the dour Susan B. Anthony, Sacejawea and her love child or the great new Presidential dollars. You say you can't tell the difference between a quarter and a dollar? Well, duh! You'll learn, just like you can tell a nickel from a penny! And while we're at it, let's get a Deuce (a $2 coin) with Ronald Reagan on it and a Fin ($5 coin) with Teddy Roosevelt. Paper money just doesn't cut it anymore, unless it's bundles of c-notes.
1 posted on 08/19/2007 5:26:09 PM PDT by Larry R. Johnson
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To: Larry R. Johnson

My proposal to teach Americans about money is to come out with the Jefferson dollar, make it smaller than the Washington dollar, and denominate it as a $3 coin.


2 posted on 08/19/2007 5:39:55 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

The auto-matic car wash at the home-depot actually gives change in bills. Not that it has anything to do with this story. LOL


3 posted on 08/19/2007 5:44:04 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Get rid of the penny. Just get rid of it entirely. (Waiting for the “But prices will rise to the nearest nickel WAAAA!” luddite posts)


4 posted on 08/19/2007 5:46:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I’ll put in my two cents....save the penny!!!


5 posted on 08/19/2007 5:55:07 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If you round numbers to the nearest 5 cents (1 and 2 go down, 3 and 4 go up), in the long run, there will be no difference in cost.


6 posted on 08/19/2007 5:57:16 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Larry R. Johnson
I recently took up coin collecting. I went through a jar of change we had in the bedroom and sold several of them on ebay. I sold a penny from 1995 for $50 bucks.
7 posted on 08/19/2007 5:59:23 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Technically there’s no such thing as a US penny. It’s a cent.


8 posted on 08/19/2007 6:00:12 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Had a million dollars worth of nickels and dimes
She sat around and counted them all a million times

— Lyrics from Minnie the Moocher, by Cab Calloway


9 posted on 08/19/2007 6:10:49 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Perdogg

I live in an area with sales tax of 7.25%. So if it costs a dollar, I pay 1.0725. I’ll let them get rid of the penny when they either get rid of the sales tax or make it a flat, reasonable percentage.


10 posted on 08/19/2007 6:15:58 PM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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To: Perdogg

That is exactly what is done in the US military communities in Europe. I remember in the early ‘70’s when the new policy was implemented. Prices in the exchanges and commissaries are rounded at the register. Those ending in 01 or 02 are rounded down, 03 and 04 are rounded up. It was just too expensive to ship all those pennies overseas. Didn’t seem to bother too many people.


11 posted on 08/19/2007 6:24:36 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

bump


12 posted on 08/19/2007 6:26:57 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

“Take that, you dirty copper!”


13 posted on 08/19/2007 6:28:53 PM PDT by secretagent
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We should make cents out of air. Cheep & light weight.


14 posted on 08/19/2007 6:46:16 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Get rid of the penny. The military commissary and exchange system in Japan (where I was stationed for many years) eliminated them years ago due to the cost of shipping them. I didn’t miss them a bit and found it quite annoying when I came to the States and had to deal with them again.


15 posted on 08/19/2007 6:48:04 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Hey! Must be a devil between us)
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To: tbw2

16 posted on 08/19/2007 6:53:52 PM PDT by cost_benefit (Proud member of "Club for Growth")
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Like many other countries, we need to create a “new dollar”, i.e. the old dollar with one zero lopped off. We keep the penny, nickel, dime, quarter and dollar. Your $30,000 car will cost $3,000, the same as it did in the 1960s. Of course, your $80,000 income will become $8,000, but your purchasing power will be the same.


17 posted on 08/19/2007 7:03:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Larry R. Johnson
Weller, who has long lobbied for the penny with a group called Americans for Common Cents, argues the penny is good for the economy. Its absence, he said, would lead retailers to raise prices, influencing inflation.

Bull hockey. Everything that now costs $19.99 will suddenly cost $19.95 instead.

18 posted on 08/19/2007 7:17:44 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Jaysun

What was special about the 1995?


19 posted on 08/19/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Hey! Must be a devil between us)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

If they quit making the penny, Wal*Mart will go out of business. It HAS to price stuff as $4.97, etc.


20 posted on 08/19/2007 7:49:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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