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Robert Heinlein at 100
http://www.reason.com/news/printer/120766.html ^

Posted on 08/19/2007 6:06:46 AM PDT by tpaine

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To: roaddog727
RE: It describes my worldview to a tee... As it does for me.

Well, when you get to butchering that next hog, carve me off some nice chops!

141 posted on 08/19/2007 5:32:58 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: KevinDavis

Oh most definitely i would like to be on this ping list, thanks.


142 posted on 08/19/2007 5:33:00 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: Bender2
Enjoy your brew (I may allow myself one this evening even though I'm on call). I'm sure this Heinlein thread will last a while (since we are all such fans).

Good night and good morrow to you.

143 posted on 08/19/2007 5:33:48 PM PDT by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: bert

yeah, but great work if you can stomach it!


144 posted on 08/19/2007 5:34:00 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

My all time favorite RAH quote.


145 posted on 08/19/2007 5:34:37 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: Bender2

Bump to the book list.

I have read each at least once.


146 posted on 08/19/2007 5:38:30 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: PizzaDriver; Professional Engineer; Tanniker Smith; LexBaird; TrueKnightGalahad; Pablo64
Re: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1883551/posts?page=1 A U.S. military drill designed to enhance homeland security in the event of a nuclear terrorist attack has some officials and media outlets funded by billionaire George Soros warning it may be a “false flag” operation leading to the detonation of a real nuclear device to set the stage for martial law.

Just the thought of getting rid of Soros and his Liberal Democrat ilk make me almost wish this were true!

Now, notice... I said ‘notice’ I say almost...

Yet, it would be fun to get rid of the scum and then have a nice little bloody revolution to get back on the true course a’la Heinlein, eh?

147 posted on 08/19/2007 5:40:13 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

“Well, when you get to butchering that next hog, carve me off some nice chops!”

Happy to. My cleaver waits in great anticipation.


148 posted on 08/19/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: roaddog727
Re: My cleaver waits in great anticipation.

Outside of watching Jimmy Stewart's Elwood P. Dowd alley scene from Harvey once again, one rarely heard "My cleaver waits" much anymore...

Let's say it once more...

My cleaver waits...

Ahhhhhhhhh... the night is so young!

149 posted on 08/19/2007 5:46:31 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Seeing that long, long compilation of Bob’s inventive genius is astounding; he threw off brilliant ideas like flares from a never-ending Roman candle. Only one other writer in the genre ever impressed me near as much, and only one story by him: Philip Jose Farmer’s “Riders of the Purple Wage,” published in the first volume of Harlan Ellison’s “Dangerous Visions.” DV is still one of the most powerful collections of stories ever put to paper, the RotPW can still give me chills — Farmer was absolutely profligate with brilliant ideas and flights of imagination, and like Bob did it with a flair that concealed the intense effort and dedication that all good writing requires. If you ever get a chance to pick up Dangerous Visions, I highly recommend that you do — most of the stories, which gathered a passel of Hugos and Nebulas, still make for powerful and challenging reading.


150 posted on 08/19/2007 5:52:02 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Viking Kitties!)
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To: Pablo64
RE: Enjoy your brew (I may allow myself one this evening even though I’m on call).

From http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042546/quotes while I am on a roll...

Harvey and I sit in the bars... have a drink or two... play the juke box. And soon the faces of all the other people they turn toward mine and they smile. And they’re saying, “We don’t know your name, mister, but you’re a very nice fella.” Harvey and I warm ourselves in all these golden moments. We’ve entered as strangers - soon we have friends. And they come over... and they sit with us... and they drink with us... and they talk to us. They tell about the big terrible things they’ve done and the big wonderful things they’ll do. Their hopes, and their regrets, and their loves, and their hates. All very large, because nobody ever brings anything small into a bar. And then I introduce them to Harvey... and he’s bigger and grander than anything they offer me. And when they leave, they leave impressed. The same people seldom come back; but that’s envy, my dear. There’s a little bit of envy in the best of us.

151 posted on 08/19/2007 5:58:06 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2
I've never found any sci-fi writer that make me want to read his each and every published word except for Heinlein.

Same here. Larry Niven is probably close. RAH even got me to reading shorts again. Twenty years after I had thought my hi-skruwl teechurs killed the desire.

152 posted on 08/19/2007 6:06:38 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (To Engineer is human.)
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To: Bender2
Ya know, just about every Heinlein thread I ever saw on FR ended up with several hundred posts...

That has been my observation as well.

153 posted on 08/19/2007 6:08:16 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (To Engineer is human.)
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To: VermiciousKnid

From the "Daydream Engineers" exhibit at the US NAval Academy Library.


154 posted on 08/19/2007 6:11:20 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (To Engineer is human.)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad
Now, this is being written under the influence of my 6th beer, so be warned!

Harlan Ellison first got my attention when I saw his name on the teleplay for the ‘City on the Edge of Forever’ episode of “Star Trek” first broadcast on April 6, 1967.

I started reading his works, critiques of his work and his sayings in interviews... I was soon of the opinion he was a jerk who happened to write a good sci-fi yarn now and then...

Like Frank Sinatra who was a mega-jerk who sang great, great lounge songs and did passable rat pack films for light guilty pleasure entertainment..

After years of give and take, with all the stories of his and Roddenberry’s saying Ellison made Scotty a drug dealer, I say this. Given a 2 or 4 million dollar budget of 1967 dollars, I do not believe any filming of Ellison’s original script would have been better that the ‘bastardized’ 44 minute version he claims Roddenberry savagely cut, rewrote, filmed and presented for less than $200,000 1967 bucks.

Yet my main opinion of Harlan Ellison is still the same: He is a jerk who happened to write a good sci-fi yarn now and then!

155 posted on 08/19/2007 6:18:38 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Professional Engineer
Saw your screen name and tagline and thought I would pass along something I picked up when my dad and I both worked in the Engineering department for the Colorado State Highway Dept. It is the "definition" of an Engineer. We felt that it really hit home with some of the design engineers and the test engineers, but I would suspect that anyone in the field could find someone to apply it to. You've probably seen it or something like it before, but here it is:

DEFINITION OF AN ENGINEER

"An Engineer is one who passes as an exacting expert on the strength of being able to turn out with prolific fortitude strings of incomprehensible formulae calculated with micrometric precision from extremely vague assumptions which are based on debatable figures acquired from inconclusive tests and quite incomplete experiments carried out with instruments of problematic accuracy by persons of doubtful reliability and rather dubious mentality with particular anticipation of disconcerting and annoying everyone outside of their own fraternity."

156 posted on 08/19/2007 6:19:28 PM PDT by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: ontap
Ideologies aside, Great author!

I agree

157 posted on 08/19/2007 6:21:46 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Acts 8:37)
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To: Bender2

Oh, yeah — Ellison = jerk, period, no excuses. I never found him much of a creative writer, either; workmanlike, yes, good at recycling others’ ideas. But as an editor, I’d put him up there with Campbell, as one who consistently could bring out the magic other writers had within. DV was a milestone; Theodore Sturgeon’s afterword to “If All Men Were Brothers...” is alone worth ten times the price of the book. Enjoy your evening — hope you’re cracking open number seven, in honor of Bob (can’t have an even number of beers for an old Navy man!).


158 posted on 08/19/2007 6:31:21 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Viking Kitties!)
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To: T Minus Four; ontap
RE: ontap's Ideologies aside, Great author!

Your I agree

Gadzooks, never, ever agree with my old cuz!

It gives him delusions of grandeur!

And it don't improve his fishing one damned bit!

159 posted on 08/19/2007 6:31:59 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2; ontap

Hee hee! How is the fishing anyway? :-)


160 posted on 08/19/2007 6:40:16 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Acts 8:37)
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