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Decisions Upend Judges' Lives (Judge George Greer at AMA Annual Meeting)
CAL Law ^ | August 13, 2007 | Mike McKee

Posted on 08/19/2007 3:41:17 AM PDT by amdgmary

More than two years after enraging right-wing groups by ordering Terry Schiavo's feeding tube removed, George Greer still peers over his shoulder nervously at times.

In fact, the Florida judge told a rapt audience Friday at the American Bar Association's annual meeting, he even used an alias when he registered at his San Francisco hotel on this trip.

Two years ago, he said, someone in the Bay Area threatened to kill him over his decision to end life support for the brain-damaged Schiavo. And even though that person was prosecuted and jailed, Greer said, he's taking no chances.

"It is a little unnerving," he said. "I still can't see a strange car come down my street without wondering [who's behind the steering wheel]."

Greer talked about he and his wife had to be placed under 24-hour watch after Operation Rescue posted their home address and phone number on its Web site. All of their mail was checked by authorities and on one occasion dead flowers were delivered to their condominium with a note reading, "No Food, No Water" — a reference to Schiavo.

"It got to the point," Greer said, "that we felt a little trapped in our apartment."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ama; georgegreer; judge; judgegeorgegreer; judgegreer; judicialhomicide; judicialtyranny; meninblack; pinellascounty; terrischiavo
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To: Mark was here

You’re the one who is mocking.


61 posted on 08/19/2007 8:29:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: EternalVigilance
You’re the one who is mocking.

BINGO! We have a winer, I am mocking the hate. Nothing more.

62 posted on 08/19/2007 8:33:04 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Mark was here

Florida Constitution

Article One

SECTION 2. Basic rights.--All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

63 posted on 08/19/2007 8:33:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Mark was here
BINGO! We have a winer, I am mocking the hate. Nothing more.

Your posts betray more than a bit of hate themselves, I think.

64 posted on 08/19/2007 8:35:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Mark was here

65 posted on 08/19/2007 8:37:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: amdgmary

BOO-FRICKEN-HOO!!!!


66 posted on 08/19/2007 8:46:02 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: EternalVigilance
Good. I hope he’s haunted by this all the day’s of his life. And reminded of it constantly in hell.

Awww. Poor wittle judge, twapped in his apawtment.

This man is the epitome of evil. He will face his own judgment eventually!

Lock him up with the Newark murderers.

The caretaker should shut his water off.

I want to known when this slug dies........... so I can go and water his grave.

The man is a scumbag and a murderer. May he be cursed to the end of his life.

Aint accountability a bitch?

Are you feeling the love yet?

And now this from Eternal Vigilance

Your posts betray more than a bit of hate themselves, I think.

I was merely reflecting the views expressed above in a more direct way.

Personally the Judge was placed in a position to make a decision, that was not going to satisfy everyone. If you disagree with what he decided fine, but the hate directed at him is more damaging to those who hate him, than it is to him.

67 posted on 08/19/2007 8:50:17 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Mark was here
Personally the Judge was placed in a position to make a decision, that was not going to satisfy everyone.

He issued a literal death warrant, ordering that she be killed, by cruel and unusual means, by dehydration.

This was a blatant offense against Terri, and against Article One, Section Two of the Florida Constitution, and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. And our entire political class was too cowardly to put a stop to it. They are so wedded to the pernicious doctrine of judicial supremacy that they allowed a tinpot probate judge to abrogate our most basic principles as Americans, and torture one of our most helpless citizens to death. They allowed the entire power of the state of Florida and of the United States to be subjugated to the lawlessness of one minor judge.

68 posted on 08/19/2007 9:00:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: EternalVigilance
He issued a literal death warrant, ordering that she be killed, by cruel and unusual means, by dehydration.

Do you think it was because he was in a legal straight jacket, our laws being what they are, or do you thing he truly wanted to cause pain and suffering to satisfy his own wicked desires?

69 posted on 08/19/2007 9:07:35 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: amdgmary
I have seen Judge Greer at several conferences. He does not appear to be running away from his celebrity status. He is always portrayed as the judge who is being persecuted because he made a brave decision.

He should be willing to take his licks. As a judge, you have to make hard decisions, and sometimes those decisions are very wrong and have terrible consequences.

In sum - -cry me a river judge!

70 posted on 08/19/2007 9:10:41 AM PDT by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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To: Mark was here
or do you thing he truly wanted to cause pain and suffering to satisfy his own wicked desires?

I have no idea what his motivations were or are. All I know is what he did: Commit one of the worst atrocities against an individual, and against our founding principles, in American history.

71 posted on 08/19/2007 9:12:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: amdgmary
Judge Greer broke numerous laws in his frenzy to enable Michael Schiavo and kill Terri. And he whines that he is a victim. What a sociopath!
72 posted on 08/19/2007 9:20:45 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: EternalVigilance
I have no idea what his motivations were or are.

It wouldn't hurt to find out. Some say the best way to defeat your enemy is to know him.

Do you feel that it is healthy for a person to be consumed with hate? I do not think it is, this is where forgiveness comes into play.

73 posted on 08/19/2007 9:26:31 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Mark was here

I don’t believe in cheap forgiveness, especially as it concerns public policy. Do you have any evidence that Judge Greer has repented of his evil misdeed?


74 posted on 08/19/2007 9:43:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Mark was here; EternalVigilance

The right to kill does not belong to man, it belongs to God as the author of life. Life can be taken, capital punishment imposed, only according to the law of God and under commission from him. Repeatedly the Bible tells us, as for example, in Romans 13:1-6, that officers of the state, civil government officials, are ministers of God. Just as the church represents a ministry of the word, church discipline, the precepts, so the state or civil government represents a ministry, the ministry of justice, the administration of the law and order under God. Just as the officers or ministers of the church must believe in and be faithful to God, or else incur His wrath and judgement, so also must the officers or ministers of the state believe in and be faithful to God, or else incur His wrath or judgement.

Because the officers of the state exercise God’s power, that is, the ministry of justice, with the power and right to take life, they are spoken of by God as “elohim” in Psalm 82, this is, as gods. They are like gods in that they share in God’s authority over human life: to them is delegated the duty of killing men when men violate God’s laws.

When they discharge this duty according to God’s word, their judgement is regarded as “judgements of God.” Deuteronomy 11:17 ...in it’s instructions to civil officers and judges says, “Ye shall not respect persons in judgement; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgement is God’s.” If the judges and officers of civil government fail to keep God’s laws, if they pervert God’s justice, then, according to Psalm 82, although their authority is like the authority of a god, they “shall die like men.” Psalm 82:7.

The Bible is clear that a man proven guilty cannot be the object of pity. As Soloman summarized it, “They that foresake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with the them.” Proverbs 28:4.

Those who are full of pity for the guilty are themselves foresaking the law. Pity for a criminal is a sign of depravity to a Christian.


75 posted on 08/19/2007 10:07:02 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
Great post. It always amazes how simple-minded and wrong-headed some can be about applying actual scriptural principles in the real world. It belies a much deeper spiritual problem.
76 posted on 08/19/2007 10:10:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Ken522
"It got to the point," Greer said, "that we felt a little trapped in our apartment."

Proverbs 28:1 The wicked man flees though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion.

gitmo

77 posted on 08/19/2007 10:13:20 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: amdgmary
on one occasion dead flowers were delivered to their condominium with a note reading, "No Food, No Water" — a reference to Schiavo.

Succinct and to-the-point.

78 posted on 08/19/2007 10:15:23 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: amdgmary

Wow. What a p.o.s. this Greer is.


79 posted on 08/19/2007 10:16:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance
It belies a much deeper spiritual problem.

I believe it's because our churches are teaching a "new gospel"....Galations 1:6.

80 posted on 08/19/2007 10:20:39 AM PDT by I got the rope
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