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Libertarian suspected of felony menacing
The Daily Camera ^ | August 18, 2007 | Vanessa Miller

Posted on 08/18/2007 9:37:34 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird

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If you're going to be the local "political activist and longtime Second Amendment advocate" DO NOT go around threatening people with your gun (unless you're a typical deranged liberal - then feel free show the world what you're really like). What a dumb *ss.

This guy simply confirmed in Boulder's overwhelmingly liberal population's minds that guns must go.

1 posted on 08/18/2007 9:37:36 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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This guy simply confirmed in Boulder's overwhelmingly liberal population's minds that guns must go.

Or at least other people's guns must go :)

2 posted on 08/18/2007 9:41:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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Liberaltarians are hippocrits and this guy just proved it. They don’t believe in war or violence. They don’t even believe in war in self defense. Yet, they claim to be strong advocates of the second amendment.


3 posted on 08/18/2007 11:52:21 AM PDT by 3_wheeler (Freedom Isn't Free (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservative_americans))
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird; All
Are they entirely sure he wasn’t brandishing a bong?
4 posted on 08/18/2007 12:18:04 PM PDT by dighton
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

These days, “activist” = BULLY.


5 posted on 08/18/2007 12:29:11 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Makes you wonder what happened to “no initiation of violence.”


6 posted on 08/18/2007 1:06:49 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Tiger sounds like a real fruitcake.


7 posted on 08/18/2007 1:12:04 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Liberaltarians are hippocrits and this guy just proved it.

And Republicans like Foley and Haggard aren't?
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8 posted on 08/18/2007 1:21:35 PM PDT by radioman
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Every group has its fruitcakes. Libertarians seem to attract more than their fair share.


9 posted on 08/18/2007 2:57:53 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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They don’t believe in war or violence. They don’t even believe in war in self defense.

They don't believe in *initiating* violence. Some may be pacifists, but most I know of are not. Those that oppose the war in Iraq don't believe it's a defensive thing. They are wrong, IMHO, but that's what they believe.

10 posted on 08/18/2007 7:24:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Before the Freeper Rapid Response "Shout down" squad arrives, I would like to direct everyone's attention to two red flags in this brief and incomplete newspaper "word portrait"

No 1:

Stenzel told police he wasn't afraid initially because "Lots of people make threats like that."

So this Goobermint Official routinely engages in "provocative acts" and this time he found himself dealing with unintended consequences. Try to remember the BTK Killer was a "code compliance" officer who fined people who did not cut their grass to the correct height.

No.2

Tiger's bond was set at $10,000 on Friday in Boulder County District Court.

If the allegations were really serious bond would be a heck of a lot more than 10 grand.

Why do people trust the Dinosauer Media's Word Pictures when they like the message and distrust them when they dislike the message?

Put Republican in the headline and see if the story sounds the same.

Best regards,

11 posted on 08/19/2007 7:02:11 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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Notice the headline. Imagine a headline starting with “Democrat suspected of felony ........” or “Liberal suspected of felony ......”. Here in Illinois, we see stories with sleazy Democrat crimes and the word “Democrat” or “liberal” are never used anywhere in the headline or within the story.


12 posted on 08/19/2007 7:11:58 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Makes you wonder what happened to “no initiation of violence.”

Do you understand the doctrine of "provocative acts"?

I do not know what kind of road worker this guy was, but I have seen road crews pop up like thundershowers in my neck of the woods and create absolute havoc.

One time these clowns set up 100 to 200 feet inside a side street next to a bank drive-through teller exit with their sign invisible from the main road.

So you had a stream of cars turn into this side street from the main road and then try to turn around when they saw the sign and the roadwork and you had another stream of cars attempting to leave the bank parking lot at the same time.

You bet I got out of my car and told the guy to move the sign to the intersection where people could avoid the turn altogether and you bet I got mad when he gave me a vulgar and profanity laced reply.

Unlike our friend in Boulder I dialed 911 and advised them a major clusterfoxtrot was underway and they better dispatch traffic patrol before someone gets run over by a 4,000 lb weapon known as a automobile.

Best regards,

13 posted on 08/19/2007 7:19:20 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: 3_wheeler

Libertarians are kooks and nuts, and this guy just proved it.


14 posted on 08/19/2007 7:22:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: attiladhun2
Every group has its fruitcakes.

Yeah, but we all love Freepers regardless.

Best regards,

15 posted on 08/19/2007 7:24:10 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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“Do you understand the doctrine of ‘provocative acts’”?

We call them “provoking words and gestures” but they are very seldom justification for assault and/or battery. Your response in the situation you cited was much better than the dude in Boulder. I’d have followed up with a call to the company/agency he worked for, with his name if possible, and probably photographs of the situation.


16 posted on 08/19/2007 10:41:28 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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We call them “provoking words and gestures” but they are very seldom justification for assault and/or battery

Understood. But if this guy had intended harm to our forlorn road worker he could have used his 4,000 lb. vehicle of mass destruction to commit his assault. No firearm needed.

And if this roadworker makes it his routine practice to foment riots he should not be surprised when he occasionally succeeds.

Best regards,

17 posted on 08/19/2007 7:08:47 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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"They don’t believe in war or violence."

I'm not so sure. I consider myself a libertarian, and I believe in kicking anyone's ass who messes with us.

18 posted on 08/19/2007 7:11:05 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

What Tiger did is indefensible. IMHO he is not a second amendment advocate by going around portraying law abiding firearms owners as nuts who will brandish firearms at the drop of a hat. No where in the second amendment or the founding fathers writings does it say that firearm ownership is for threatening other law abiding citizens.

There are so many law abiding firearm owners such as the ones here on freerepublic that would never think about doing this. We get painted with the same brush as this nutjob. No one should be defending this guy.

Sure, the reporter should not have been identifying him as a libertarian. That shows his/her bias. However, the basic facts of the story are probably not in dispute. That being the case, Tiger is wrong and he brings discredit on the things we believe in.


19 posted on 08/20/2007 4:45:39 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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I’ve never been able to respond to any of this, but it’s still worth it.
I didn’t pull a gun on anyone, never unholstered. Frank Stenzl is a well know bank robber out on parole for robbery and car jacking. He was drunk on the job, DUI, and throwing debris and screaming at motorists. He lost his parole and went back to prison, my case was DISMISSED.


20 posted on 03/30/2010 11:36:10 AM PDT by Hair-Trigger (Case Tossed)
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