Posted on 08/18/2007 9:37:34 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
Saturday, August 18, 2007
A Boulder County political activist and longtime Second Amendment advocate was in court Friday after being arrested on suspicion of threatening a road worker with a gun.
Paul Tiger, 51, of Longmont, is accused of felony menacing with a deadly weapon.
Police said he confronted a traffic-control flagger about 2:40 p.m. Aug. 11 near the intersection of South Sunset Street and Nelson Road because of road closures and detours near his business. He left the scene and returned with a handgun, police said.
Officers arrested Tiger about 5 p.m. Thursday after interviewing witnesses and researching Tiger's history of being armed with a handgun in public. That history includes a 2004 incident in which an upset Tiger came to the Camera offices with a loaded gun.
A police report gives the following account of this week's arrest:
Road worker Franklin Stenzel told officers he was checking the Nelson Road intersection when Tiger pulled up in a truck and came "aggressively storming up." He engaged in a profanity-laced shouting match with Stenzel before threatening, "I'm coming back with a gun."
Stenzel told police he wasn't afraid initially because "Lots of people make threats like that."
But when Tiger returned with a handgun on his right hip holster, Stenzel called for help on his two-way radio. Stenzel said Tiger gripped the gun, released the holster strap and said, "I bet you'll have a civil tongue about you now, won't you?"
Stenzel told officers he felt Tiger was going to use the weapon because, "Where I am from, if you put your hand on your gun, you're drawing it."
Tiger's bond was set at $10,000 on Friday in Boulder County District Court. He remained in jail late Friday after Boulder County Judge John Stavely denied a request that his bond be modified, saying the allegations are "a major concern."
"Tiger isn't going anywhere," attorney David Harrison told Stavely. "I know the facts of the case are of concern to the court. But at some point, the weapon was put away, and there was rational conversation."
Tiger has run for numerous elected positions in Boulder County as a Libertarian candidate. His political history includes vying for county clerk in 2002 and county commissioner in 2004. He also served on the county's Elections Review Committee that year.
Contact Camera Staff Writer Vanessa Miller at 303-473-1329 or millerv@dailycamera.com.
This guy simply confirmed in Boulder's overwhelmingly liberal population's minds that guns must go.
Or at least other people's guns must go :)
Liberaltarians are hippocrits and this guy just proved it. They don’t believe in war or violence. They don’t even believe in war in self defense. Yet, they claim to be strong advocates of the second amendment.
These days, “activist” = BULLY.
Makes you wonder what happened to “no initiation of violence.”
Tiger sounds like a real fruitcake.
Every group has its fruitcakes. Libertarians seem to attract more than their fair share.
They don't believe in *initiating* violence. Some may be pacifists, but most I know of are not. Those that oppose the war in Iraq don't believe it's a defensive thing. They are wrong, IMHO, but that's what they believe.
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Stenzel told police he wasn't afraid initially because "Lots of people make threats like that."
So this Goobermint Official routinely engages in "provocative acts" and this time he found himself dealing with unintended consequences. Try to remember the BTK Killer was a "code compliance" officer who fined people who did not cut their grass to the correct height.
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Tiger's bond was set at $10,000 on Friday in Boulder County District Court.
If the allegations were really serious bond would be a heck of a lot more than 10 grand.
Why do people trust the Dinosauer Media's Word Pictures when they like the message and distrust them when they dislike the message?
Put Republican in the headline and see if the story sounds the same.
Best regards,
Notice the headline. Imagine a headline starting with “Democrat suspected of felony ........” or “Liberal suspected of felony ......”. Here in Illinois, we see stories with sleazy Democrat crimes and the word “Democrat” or “liberal” are never used anywhere in the headline or within the story.
Do you understand the doctrine of "provocative acts"?
I do not know what kind of road worker this guy was, but I have seen road crews pop up like thundershowers in my neck of the woods and create absolute havoc.
One time these clowns set up 100 to 200 feet inside a side street next to a bank drive-through teller exit with their sign invisible from the main road.
So you had a stream of cars turn into this side street from the main road and then try to turn around when they saw the sign and the roadwork and you had another stream of cars attempting to leave the bank parking lot at the same time.
You bet I got out of my car and told the guy to move the sign to the intersection where people could avoid the turn altogether and you bet I got mad when he gave me a vulgar and profanity laced reply.
Unlike our friend in Boulder I dialed 911 and advised them a major clusterfoxtrot was underway and they better dispatch traffic patrol before someone gets run over by a 4,000 lb weapon known as a automobile.
Best regards,
Libertarians are kooks and nuts, and this guy just proved it.
Yeah, but we all love Freepers regardless.
Best regards,
“Do you understand the doctrine of ‘provocative acts’”?
We call them “provoking words and gestures” but they are very seldom justification for assault and/or battery. Your response in the situation you cited was much better than the dude in Boulder. I’d have followed up with a call to the company/agency he worked for, with his name if possible, and probably photographs of the situation.
Understood. But if this guy had intended harm to our forlorn road worker he could have used his 4,000 lb. vehicle of mass destruction to commit his assault. No firearm needed.
And if this roadworker makes it his routine practice to foment riots he should not be surprised when he occasionally succeeds.
Best regards,
I'm not so sure. I consider myself a libertarian, and I believe in kicking anyone's ass who messes with us.
What Tiger did is indefensible. IMHO he is not a second amendment advocate by going around portraying law abiding firearms owners as nuts who will brandish firearms at the drop of a hat. No where in the second amendment or the founding fathers writings does it say that firearm ownership is for threatening other law abiding citizens.
There are so many law abiding firearm owners such as the ones here on freerepublic that would never think about doing this. We get painted with the same brush as this nutjob. No one should be defending this guy.
Sure, the reporter should not have been identifying him as a libertarian. That shows his/her bias. However, the basic facts of the story are probably not in dispute. That being the case, Tiger is wrong and he brings discredit on the things we believe in.
I’ve never been able to respond to any of this, but it’s still worth it.
I didn’t pull a gun on anyone, never unholstered. Frank Stenzl is a well know bank robber out on parole for robbery and car jacking. He was drunk on the job, DUI, and throwing debris and screaming at motorists. He lost his parole and went back to prison, my case was DISMISSED.
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