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Marine Trial Results Show Leniency
North County Times ^ | Thursday, August 16, 2007 | TERI FIGUEROA and MARK WALKER

Posted on 08/17/2007 6:15:06 PM PDT by freema

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To: freema
Give 'em time. It may happen. Step by step. Never thought to get this good an outcome.
41 posted on 08/18/2007 3:09:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: RobbyS

As an aside, I had the profound pleasure of snarling at a superior officer, JAG branch, while sitting on a military conduct board. The hearing was over, with him having lost, and badly, so he decided to berate the board for our unanimous and strong decision against him.

With the permission of the senior officer, I tore him a new one, and then, before he could respond, I requested leave to depart, which the bright eyed, grinning senior officer was happy to provide. I then walked out right by the stammering JAG Major.

Well, I had a feeling that his wounded pride would come back to haunt me. And it took six months. The JAG loser wrote up a scathing report about the hearing and had it delivered to the Brigade Commanding Officer. Fortunately the Brigade CSM found it, saw my name, and decided to confront me about it. (CSMs rarely missing an opportunity to nick a junior officer for screwing up, which the JAG Major has asserted.)

CSM “Klingon”, for both appearance and temperament, at first subtly approached me and was none too clear what he was talking about, and it took me a few seconds to remember the hearing, but when I did, hoo boy.

I must have turned a few colors while recalling with a snarl the gross screw-ups involved, and not only referenced the JAG Major for his actions, but invoked the sacred and fearful phrase “...A complete breakdown in the NCO chain of command!” about the case, which ironically, reflected in a terrible way right at the Brigade CSM. Him.

And a mortified CSM can be a very scary thing. Fortunately, not directed at me, but at the JAG Major.

So this ended up with the double pleasure of not only the feeling that justice had been served, but that the heavy hand of judgment was about to descend on the JAG Major.


42 posted on 08/18/2007 3:18:45 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: freema
“Former Marine prosecutor Thad Coakley was among those caught off guard.”

Perhaps he is part of the problem.

43 posted on 08/18/2007 3:26:18 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Russian communist empire, despite the Democratic party)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I must be a pretty unforgiving and relentless &!+@#, Mo.... I expect more. They may not have been promised a Rose Garden, but I d@^^ ^ sure want someone to throw them a freaken party IN the Rose Garden when this is wrapped up.


44 posted on 08/18/2007 4:19:05 PM PDT by freema
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You've got a point there, to be sure.

Former prosecutor Thad Coakley:

...group that decide to kidnap and execute a guy...

That's darn sure not how I see it. I thought we were at war and I thought the object was to kill the enemy, not to let them kill you.

45 posted on 08/18/2007 4:27:01 PM PDT by freema
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Well, I'll give MY unsolicited opinion about what's going on here (and I'm a lawyer, and my dad was JAG (in the Reserves - WWII combat vet) for years and years.)

Peacetime army always accumulates a bunch of timeservers and non-warrior-minded types.

Where more likely for them to land than JAG? (or the IG, I guess).

46 posted on 08/18/2007 6:14:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Peacetime army always accumulates a bunch of timeservers and non-warrior-minded types who want to be heroes.

Fixed it.


47 posted on 08/18/2007 6:29:02 PM PDT by freema
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To: Popocatapetl

My congratulations.


48 posted on 08/18/2007 7:41:58 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: freema

Thats ok, I am also very saddened about that mine tragidy .Too much info . I have to turn it off sometimes .


49 posted on 08/18/2007 8:28:45 PM PDT by noamnasty
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Yep.


50 posted on 08/19/2007 3:48:37 AM PDT by freema
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To: RobbyS; Popocatapetl

I wanted to respond to that post, but could not think of an appropriate respose. You did, Robby!

My congratulations, too Popo.


51 posted on 08/19/2007 3:51:09 AM PDT by freema
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I agree, we cannot be picky about ridding our selves of the enemy. They are all suspect and cannot be trusted.
52 posted on 08/19/2007 4:02:42 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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Thank you.

I can not understand the mentality of those who think (and I use that term loosely) that an insurgent’s life/threat/potential threat is to be held in higher regard than the life of a United States Marine.

Not will I ever understand that mentality.

ROE or no.

I mean, really, were the ROE inscribed in stone and handed to these prosecutors by Moses? Did I miss this?

Oops, I’m having to use the backspace key. Better stop now.


53 posted on 08/19/2007 4:42:18 AM PDT by freema
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God loves me....put the backspace key into place at the right moment : ) I did NOT realize who you are -your screen name may have subconsciously prompted the Moses reference. I posted, THEN looked at your home page. Doh! I hope you took no offense!


54 posted on 08/19/2007 4:48:29 AM PDT by freema
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