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Forced Education in Homosexuality and Evolution Leads to Exodus of Mennonites from Quebec
LifeSite ^ | 8/17/07 | John-Henry Westen and Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 08/17/2007 12:15:16 PM PDT by ZGuy

A community of a dozen Mennonite families in Quebec is ready to leave the province rather than succumb to provincial government demands that would require their children to be taught evolution and homosexuality. While the government sees its actions as nothing more than enforcing technical regulations, many view the case as intolerance of Christian faith.

The community runs a small Mennonite school out of a church in Roxton Falls where eleven children in elementary grades were expected to commence studies this Fall. Subjects include reading, writing, math, science, geography, social sciences, music and French. However, they are not schooled in evolution and homosexuality (sex education) as demanded by the official provincial curriculum.

Quebec Education Ministry Spokesman Francois Lefebvre told LifeSiteNews.com that the province has two requirements for approval of private schools. "That the teachers are certified and that the provincial curriculum which is mandatory in all Quebec schools is followed," he said.

Ronald Goossen, a spokesman for the families, told LifeSiteNews.com the community rejects both demands. With regard to certified teachers, he said, "we have pulled our students out of public schools and by asking us to have certified teachers they are asking us to send our teachers to public school. So basically they're asking something of us that we don't feel we can do."

Regarding the curriculum, Goosen said, "Some of the things - the theory of evolution would be a problem, the attitudes portrayed, the lifestyles we don't ascribe to, making it look that single motherhood is fine, that alternate lifestyles are fine - gay 'marriage', we'd be very much against that."

After visiting the Mennonites in November, the Ministry of Education told the school that their teaching was not up to standard and threatened them with legal action. Parents were informed that their children must be enrolled in government-approved schools by the fall.

Given other incidents in the province, Goossen was concerned that if they don't comply, children might be taken from their families by social workers. In 2002, social workers in Aylmer removed seven children from a Mennonite family because the family used spanking as a form of discipline.

This move is an enactment of the Ministry of Education's decision last year to shut down schools that don't teach the full government-approved curriculum. The Ministry threatened to shut down private Evangelical schools that didn't want to teach evolution and sex-education (See http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/oct/06102404.html ).

The Mayor of Roxton Falls, Jean-Marie Laplante, said that the majority of non-Mennonites in his town support the school. Laplante has complained to the education department and Education Minister Michelle Courchesne to save the school from being shut down.

"We want to keep these people here - they're part of our community," the Mayor told the National Post. "They're good neighbours. They integrated into the community, they work hard, they have farms, they work in businesses in the region."

The prospect of losing the families, said the Mayor, "hurts economically, but it also hurts because everybody loves these people and we're saying, 'Why? Why is this happening?' "

Goosen told LifeSiteNews.com that the families are serious about moving and will be gone in a couple of weeks when school commences. He noted that most have already rented housing in Ontario. Should the government reconsider and allow them the freedom to educate their children within the boundaries of their faith, the community would gladly stay he said.

Lefebvre told LifeSiteNews.com that the school had not yet applied for permission to run privately. However, Goosen responded that the ministry of education had all the required information and his application was not 'officially' submitted only due to a technicality related to the online submission process.

Moreover, said Goosen, "we have been informed that our application would be rejected since they require certified teachers and adherence to the curriculum."

Lefebvre at first seemed conciliatory. He claimed that the regulations "do not exclude giving other courses or teachings related to their religious convictions, but at this moment it is outside of the official program of education."

LifeSiteNews.com asked whether a compromise could be reached, whether it would be possible to eliminate from the school's curriculum the offensive parts which deal with evolution and homosexuality. Lefebvre replied, "It's difficult to say because the educational program insists that students acquire competence in the whole program therefore how could you eliminate one part of the program and still have a general competence?" He referred to religious schools in Quebec, emphasizing that they also have to "respect the program of education (curriculum) of Quebec."

Goosen told LifeSiteNews.com that the Mennonite community has its own curriculum which is accepted in seven other Canadian provinces. "Our own curriculum system has served us well and produced good results," he said.

The option of home schooling is permitted, Lefebvre stated in answer to another question, as long as the progress of the children is reported as satisfactory to the local education ministry. He told LifeSiteNews.com that homeschoolers in the province must be receiving an equivalent education as those in public schools, which means the provincial curriculum must be followed. That curriculum, with its pro-gay sex education and its teaching of evolution, remains unacceptable to many.

To politely express concerns to the Ministry of Education in Quebec:

Ministère de l'Éducation, du Loisir et du Sport Édifice Marie-Guyart 1035, rue De La Chevrotière 16e étage Québec (Québec) G1R5A5 Phone : 418 644-0664 Fax : 418 646-7551 ministre@mels.gouv.qc.ca


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christians; exodus; homosexualagenda; mennonites; quebec
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1 posted on 08/17/2007 12:15:20 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy
Leftists don’t ever seem to tumble to the fact that, if you have to force it on the people, there’s probably something wrong with it. Re: homosexuality, evolution, radical Islam, Illegal immigration, man-made global warming, communism, and on and on. It never occurs them them that they, not the people, just might be wrong.

Morons.

2 posted on 08/17/2007 12:20:59 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: ZGuy

These “666” government types are getting obnoxious.


3 posted on 08/17/2007 12:22:23 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: ZGuy

Are the Muslims also required to learn these subjects or do they get a pass?


4 posted on 08/17/2007 12:23:01 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: vetsvette

Evolution should be taught in science class (there is no scientific basis for anything else).

Homosexuality in health class is a much different story.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 12:23:56 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: ZGuy

Government tells them they can home school . . . but they can’t avoid taxes to support schools which teach anti-christian viewpoints like the legitimacy of homosexuality. Must support the schools but can’t use them.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 12:25:33 PM PDT by Greg F (The Congress voted and it didn't count and . . . then . . . it didn't happen at all.)
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To: ZGuy

Since this is Kanada, are they also going force fed them the socialist teachings of Karl Marx?


7 posted on 08/17/2007 12:26:27 PM PDT by stm
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To: Alouette

They get a pass.


8 posted on 08/17/2007 12:27:43 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Do not wish ill for your enemies, plan it.)
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To: ZGuy
Seeing as how the Mennonites are somehow connected to Harvard Divinity School I'm pleasantly surprised to read that they are opposed to evolution and homosexuality.

Say, do evolutionists advocate forcing evolution on Amish kids as well, or do they qualify as "noble savages" whose worldview is non-western and thus not to be altered?

9 posted on 08/17/2007 12:29:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Som tasim `aleykha melekh, 'asher yivchar HaShem 'Eloqeykha bo . . . .)
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To: ZGuy
Correction: "teach the full government approved dictated curriculum" ahh, that i more like it. I would love to see the Mennonites come to the US and ask for asylum based on religious discrimination. They would be happy and there would be a legal precedent against the same perverse behavior here. I guess tolerance is a one way street.
10 posted on 08/17/2007 12:29:36 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: ZGuy

“While the government sees its actions as nothing more than enforcing technical regulations, many view the case as intolerance of Christian faith. “

The U.S. and church “leaders” have rolled over Christianity a long time ago. Evolution and homosexuality mock the Christian faith.


11 posted on 08/17/2007 12:30:17 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Alouette

I bet Islam has a free pass, because of Arabs ,oil ,and bribery.


12 posted on 08/17/2007 12:32:52 PM PDT by perseid 67
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To: ZGuy

“This move is an enactment of the Ministry of Education’s decision last year to shut down schools that don’t teach the full government-approved curriculum.”

The Agenda. It’s no different on this side of the border. When good people do nothing, bad things happen.


13 posted on 08/17/2007 12:33:55 PM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: Alouette

Good question. Can’t believe this is happening at all. But since it is...at some point people have to stand and be men, not lambs.


14 posted on 08/17/2007 12:35:14 PM PDT by Graymatter ( Fort Knox needs an audit.)
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To: ZGuy
I don't see anything wrong with presenting both evolution AND creationism. (my opinion only, I don't see why it couldn't be both, rather than one or the other) However, if people choose to favor one approach over the other - that's their fundamental human right.

Not sure how someone can justify teaching homosexuality in the schools....other than it exists.

15 posted on 08/17/2007 12:37:49 PM PDT by wbill
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To: camerakid400
“Evolution should be taught in science class (there is no scientific basis for anything else).
Homosexuality in health class is a much different story”

I’ve never had a problem with evolution being taught in a science class as long as the problems with the theory are appropriately covered. Of course, ideologues like to pretend that the theory is indisputable, when it clearly is not.

Teaching homosexuality in a health class where its health risks are dealt with is also appropriate. But, as you know, that’s not the way it is approached — I won’t be surprised when I hear that some leftist teacher has informed her class that homosexuality is normal and that heterosexuals are “queers” to be shunned by all thinking people.

16 posted on 08/17/2007 12:44:54 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: wbill

I hate to disagree with you (making fun of liberals is so much better), but evolution being taught alongside creationism in science class is wrong for government funded schools. Creationism can be analyzed in a religion/history type class, but there is no scientific basis for creationism to be taught at all in science class.


17 posted on 08/17/2007 12:45:56 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: ZGuy
Lefebvre replied, "It's difficult to say because the educational program insists

No, programs do not insist, pinheaded bureaucrats on power trips insist.

that students acquire competence in the whole program therefore how could you eliminate one part of the program and still have a general competence?"

So now you don't possess general academic competence if you're not indoctrinated to accept homosexual behavior as normal and appropriate.

18 posted on 08/17/2007 12:46:56 PM PDT by Graymatter ( Fort Knox needs an audit.)
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To: camerakid400
I don't mind the teaching of evolution theory in science class ... as long as, at a minimum, it is balanced by representation of the PROBLEMS with evolution theory.
19 posted on 08/17/2007 12:50:18 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: camerakid400

“Homosexuality” in “health” class seems sort of like an oxymoron, doesn’t it?


20 posted on 08/17/2007 12:53:03 PM PDT by awakened (Remember -- There are no dead atheists.)
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