Posted on 08/17/2007 10:46:03 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
This e-wire / report ultimately makes two points:
1. The voting process at the Iowa Straw Poll was a fraud, wrapped in lies. (Whenever those running any kind of an election use police power to hide all the ballots from the people, and then announce results (?) when supposedly (?) only they have seen the ballots those people are frauds, are acting like Stalin-esque tyrants, and their organization is a fraud.
That award goes in our current drama to the Iowa GOP leadership, namely Ted Sporer, Chuck Laudner, Mary Tiffany, Craig Robinson, and Chairman Ray Hoffman. What they did to Ron Paul and all those who paid $35 to vote in the Iowa Straw Poll, and all those who entered into a contract with them by paying $35 to support the event, is UNCONSCIONABLE!
These KGB/GESTAPO TYPES, groveling before the sinister banking powers in NYC and behind the RNC and the DNC, -- and acting as their enforcers in Iowa -- hid all the EVIDENCE (the ballots) at the Iowa Straw Poll and announced the alleged results based on their assertion alone which the rest of us are supposed to take and believe on blind faith!
I am joined by already thousands of others in saying: WE DONT BELIEVE YOU! You hid the evidence! You have hidden the ballots and now you have had time to switch the ballots! You fronted for crooks, thieves, enemies of America, enemies of honest people everywhere!
The US Supreme Court has ruled twice in the last one hundred years, in U.S v Mosley (1915) and Reynolds v Sims (1964), that our right to vote includes not only the right to cast a ballot, but the right to know that our vote was counted accurately.
There is only one reason to hide the ballots from press, from candidates, and from the people because those so hiding the ballots want to keep open the option to cheat to rig the election.
The evidence is the BALLOTS, which should have been kept in public view all day, and counted in the presence of ALL factions, before said ballots leave the public view.
LONGEST DELAY EVER
In 1995, when the unbelievable tie occurred between CFR favorites Senator Bob Dole and Senator Phil Graham the doors were locked for two solid hours after the voting ended.
As I have said for years, only the GOP leadership was behind the locked doors in 1995, and all of them supported either Dole or Graham. The published results that year were that Buchanan, who by far got the best reception from the crowd, came in second with about 1950 but that Dole and Graham tied for first place at exactly 2501 to 2501.
MANY people were not buying it, and Robert Novak of CNN suggested the next morning that the straw poll vote had been cooked. (By the way, Fred Smart interviewed a person on Saturday who also gave his witness from 1995 that only Dole and Graham people were behind the locked doors in the counting room in 1995.)
Our strong suspicion was that Buchanan came in first in 1995, but this result was unpalatable to the Neo-Cons running the GOP in NYC and D.C. So, the Dole and Graham people wanted to place Buchanan in second place, but neither would give way to the other on first place. Thus, the almost impossible tie was agreed upon.
This year of 2007 saw the longest delay EVER 15 minutes loger than the 1995 delay. In 2007, the Ron Paul year, -- it was 2 hours and 15 minutes before the announcement came from the podium.
THE BEST HUNCH
While we are totally devoid of evidence (the ballots), the best analysis Ive heard is this: that probably Dr. Paul came in second to Romney who spent hundreds of thousands of $$ to bus in people.
However, this result Ron Paul coming in second place in the 2007 Iowa Straw Poll -- was totally unpalatable to the Iowa GOP and their NYC masters and D.C. handlers. Such a result would have shown both the GOP at the state and national level, and the 5 Big TV Networks to be liars and falsifiers of evidence up until the Iowa Straw Poll.
The World Tyranny Ruling Elite needed Paul to appear to finish near the bottom so that they could ignore him completely on the mass media. Therefore, the suspicion is that Ron Pauls vote was partially stolen and distributed to Huckabee, Brownback, and Romney. (Tancredo would not be helped by the Iowa GOP, despite his neo-con outlook on foreign affairs, because his anti-illegal immigration stance is completely unpalatable to the Ruling Elite in NYC and D.C. who dictate to the Iowa GOP, and all other state GOPs.)
As usual in computer-generated elections everything came up smelling like roses for the Neo-con wirepullers behind the scenes of both parties.
THE AFFIDAVITS ARE ESSENTIAL! PLEASE HELP!
2. We need the affidavits of 1306+ Iowans who voted at the straw poll for Ron Paul in order to prove, if such is the case, that the PUBLISHED count which the Iowa GOP announced was not accurate with regard to Ron Pauls vote. (All who actually voted are welcome to submit affidavits.)
SOME DISTURBING NUMBERS
The comprehensive published results will be in a future report in this series -- view them online here:
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/08/iowa-straw-poll.html
-- but at this point the reader may want to know that the Iowa GOP claims that Romney came in first with 4516 votes, and Ron Paul came in 5th with 1305 votes.
Hear ye! Hear ye! The Ron Paul Campaign has confirmed to callers what was repeated at the event itself -- that the campaign bought and gave away 800 tickets. The Adopt an Iowan group (an independent effort) has published that they had collected $22,500 and purchased 643 tickets. (By the way, since the Adopt and Iowan page wont allow you to copy it, I have printed it out to preserve the documentation.)
So now we are being asked to believe that Ron Paul got less votes (1305) than the tickets purchased by the campaign and the Adopt an Iowan campaign (totally 1443) and that NO ONE in Iowa came on their own to pay $35 and vote for Ron Paul !!!!!
The Ron Paul Campaign AND the Adopt an Iowan campaign kept track of who the tickets were given to (I hope). This is enough affidavits to prove that the announced Diebold count was wrong. And we want to find as many other Iowa citizens as possible who paid $35 out of their own pocket to vote so we can get their affidavits also.
This seems to be a smoking gun. This will be the greatest and most irrefutable proof ever that a Diebold computer was used to rig an election!
We need the affidavits of any Iowan who voted for Ron Paul at the Ames, Iowa Straw Poll. If we succeed then we will have the proof that the Diebold computers at the Iowa Straw Poll of 2007 were rigged.
If you voted in the Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, 2007 and if you need an affidavit to make sure your vote counts, and especially if you want to help us prove whether or not the result published for Ron Paul was accurate you can go to:
www.votefraud.org/iowa_straw_poll_2007_report_affidavit_part1.htm
At the top and bottom of that article is a link to the relevant affidavit. Simply right click on the link, use Save target as and save the word document to your computer where you can find it. You will then have an affidavit to fill out, and get notarized at a bank, Kinkos, etc., and to mail back to us.
A number of affidavits are already in hand.
End of this e-wire.
Jim Condit Jr.
There it is! You didn't let me down...keep it coming! I love this.
You guys are great! LOL
How surprising that Jim Condit Jr., ardent Ron Paul supporter, believes that Jews were responsible for 9/11 instead of al-Qaeda.
Since you're so impatient to get my answer immediately instead of giving me a little time as I had asked before this latest demand, here it is.
Now....since I have answered your question. please back up this claim:
he [Paul] publicly encouraged it.
Since you demanded an immediate answer from me, and I did so, I assume that you will do the same.
You neglect the Leftist Moonbats FOR Ron Paul (at least in the Republican primary).
Ive actually had Romulan ale at the Star Trek bar in Vegass Sheraton Hotel....
Morbidly curious here: did it taste like snake pee? I don’t know what snake pee tastes like, but I always figured I would, if I ever drank Romulan ale....
Tasted like a flat ale...that said, if you are ever in Vegas, I highly recommend ‘Quarks’ bar. Full ‘hollywood’ makeup, some interesting conversations overheard between the actors, and they routinely try to involve us ‘humans’ in their debates.
It was a lot of fun, even if your not a ‘Trekie’.
I fear you didn't tell the whole truth Captain.
blockquote>The Iowa GOP said the straw poll is fraud-proof.
At a Creston restaurant, Paul greeted people Wednesday and hoped some of them would vote for him at the Ames straw poll.
"It's pretty important and if we do well, we'll certainly send a strong signal, but I have no idea how well I'll do," Paul said. "We're doing our very best," Paul said.
Paul campaign staffers acknowledge asking Iowa Republican leaders to count paper ballots in the straw poll as well as using voting machines.
They said the Diebold machines to be used have been decertified in other states.
On a Des Moines radio show, the leader of a group called Voterfraud.org., who is also a Paul supporter, threatened to file a lawsuit over the machines.
Paul said he doesn't know anything about a possible lawsuit and would not want one if it's frivolous.
"Everyone wants an honest election," Paul said. "So if there's a question, this is the time the question should be asked."
Clearly he and his campaign staff supported the questions raised by the suit.
LOL - read my post. I never accused you of personal insults and as far as I know, you haven't leveled any.
I debated Paul's stance on some things way back when and that's what I was referring to. I long ago quit banging my head against that wall and as I said, I'm just here for the fun. Hey, give me credit for being honest. Heeheehee
But thank you for that reaction. ;-)
By the way, who is my candidate?
Oh, yeah! That's why I linked it first. It was about half-way down the Google page (I did the same as you and did a Google search on him).
Some others are pretty enlightening, too.
OMG I remember hearing about this guy in 2006 as I live in Ohio. Some of the foulest ads, ever.
I lived up the street, and went to school with Condit’s oldest son.
He’s ate up with the goofies, and its had a bad effect on his own family....thing is, I don’t think he ever noticed.
Technically, “There it is” is a complete sentence. :-D
intersting smear tactic there. Try this: Some freepers call for nuking Mecca (killing thousands of babies)....therefore it is not surprising that wideawake is a freeper. A silly claim? Yes....but your Condit smear is just as silly. Now....if you want to discuss what Ron Paul actually believes.....lets' have a rational dialogue.
He apparently ran for Congress (at least once) in a district near Cincinnati. That may be where the adds came from. But he's also been involved in the voter fraud issue over the years, as has his dad.
See 87. He opposed is before he supported it. Or vice versa, who can parse his words.
The left does this “stolen election” stuff sooooo much better. They should read, learn and repeat them instead of improvising. Disappointing effort.
Interestingly I see nothing wrong with that voting record and nothing left wing about it. Why? Because most of that nonsense is not the business of the national government. Course that's just the Federalist in me that recognizes the responsibility and powers of the separate and sovereign states as outlined in the Constitution under the 10th Amendment.
What we need to do is some redefinition for the 'conservatives' around here
1) Conservative- Classical liberal in the sense of Jefferson, states rights and the power belongs to the states unless specifically prohibited by the Constitution. Also tend to not to believe in Wilsonian nonsense (i.e. spreading democracy to the 'savages').Now you can choose to twist, call names, do whatever you like but this goes back to the original argument between Mr. Jefferson and Hamilton. Are we a Constitutional Republic or not?2) 'Conservative' -- Nationalists in the strain of that ass Hamilton (who advocated for a monarchy during the Convention BTW). Sees no use in the states and believes all issues should be decided by 537 hacks in Washington DC. The problem with this of course is that different states have different standards. For example NC is going to see the issue of homosexuality different than say Massachusetts. This is understood and Mr. Madison clarified the position and power of the states in Federalist 45. However, 'conservatives' are moral authoritarian absolutists who believe the law should punish those who don't believe as they do (much like New England Puritans). Whether or not the issue itself is wrong is beside the point. What is the point is what the government can or should do about it. Also ardent supporters of globalist government as long as 'we' (the collective American nation) are in control (see American hegemony and Bill Kristol's nonsensical writings)
'Conservatives' can be lumped in with modern liberalism as they also support Progressive acts of the early 20th century and the only difference between modern liberals and these hacks is not if something should be done, but what should be done.
Please don't bother replying wa. The Paulhaters don't debate the facts, they only have one liners in return
It is so nice to see that big fat ZERO after your name! Are you having a nice big-headed Guinness right now?
Truth be told, in regard to the article above . . . perhaps I need me some big-headed Guinness too, but I cannot for the life of me figure out WTF that said.
Hey, it occurs to me that I just started my vacation today. I can have a bourbon. Heck, I can have two of 'em. ;-)
Wonder what's in my mini-bar? Haven't looked yet. Hmmmm....
I did read it. I asked you some specific questions and instead answering me you took a detour and related your experiences with Paul supporters which I have nothing to do with.
Well then, go for it! I hope you can get good bourbon over there. I'm partial to Elijah Craig, myself.
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