Posted on 08/16/2007 7:56:17 PM PDT by crusher
I was listening to the news out of the corner of my ear when I heard FreeRepublic specifically mentioned as a "hate site" about fifteen minutes ago.
Ostensibly the long report was about the Klan using the web to recruit new wackos. Then the focus turned to Casa Maryland, and their director who claimed that calls for his murder had circulated on the internet by anti-immigrant bigots. It was then that the anchor identified FR by name as a hate site.
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If that is the case then posting directly from Revelations would get a Freeper banned for quite a while.
Especially the parts about the seven seals, pestilence, battles and such.
You can find LOTS of hate on FR if you know where to look.
Mitt Romney related threads almost always have anti-Mormon bigotry.
Threads dealing with Catholicism often have plenty of hatred directed at Rome.
Evolution related threads generally have religious folks champing at the bit to burn some of them unbelievers at the stake.
And yes, immigration threads usually DO have some racism.
Same for threads about Katrina or crime in general.
While FR _is_ head and shoulders above places like DU, huffpo, Kos, or the official Democrat Party website even, FreeRepublic is far from being as pristine as some here would like to think.
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What are you smokin.
I was just thinking the same thing. When the curious venture in to take a peak, what they'll find is the kind of passionate and often thoughtful political discourse that is not to be found on other active, high volume forums.
Nicely said and direct to the point.
I thought he was smokin’ a permanent exile but apparently he only inhaled a 72-hr ‘recess’.
Is “Courtesy Comment” a preface meant to emphasize the non-hatefulness of your posts?
Fox5 anchor Brian Bolter: "That's right, even hatemongers have figured out the Internet is out there. It's a way to take their movement mainstream. And as Fox5's Sherry Ly reports, they are taking their hate high tech"
The segment opens up with footage of hooded Klansmen, KKK cross burnings and skinhead rallies with voices screaming, "We are the Ku Klux Klan, we are one race!" and "White power!" Then the reporter, Sherry Ly, says: "Rallies, protests, cross burnings. These are the methods used by hate groups--until now. Through videos on the Internet, blogs and websites, hate groups can spread their message to millions. Activist Gustavo Torres has seen it first hand."
Gustavo Torres: "They are going to kill me. That they are...I need to go back to my country. If I disappear for two or three hours, people are starting to be concerned about that."
(Screen shot of top left corner of Free Republic home page) Sherry Ly: "On the conservative website Free Republic bloggers posted Torres' picture (screen grab of picture of Torres) and veiled threats. (Screen grab of comment focused on phrases: "huge powderkeg") The root of their hatred: illegal immigration. And Torres is enemy number one--as executive director of Casa of Maryland. A group that provides support to Hispanic immigrants."
Gustavo Torres: "The last report that we had is that (there are) more than eight hundred different hate groups since 2000. Many of them are attacking Casa and the immigrant community in the Washington metro area."
(Screen grab of website page graphic: "Civil War and Reconquista" followed by screenshot of a post to tgslTakoma on FR of a sentence with the phrase "threats aginst children" highlighted (timestamped "02/24/2006 12:37:51 P.M. P(ST)), followed by another "Civil war and Reconquista" full screen graphic, followed by what appears to be another screen grab from FR with the phrase "citizenship and a chance to strike a blow" highlighted.
Sherry Ly: "As the immigration debate has grown, Torres says the attacks have become more racist, antagonistic and violent. And the Internet is their breeding ground. Just look at what we found. Skinheads in concert promoting white power. Thousands watch white nationalist news. Then there's the hooded Klansmen, swastikas and neo-nazis. It's all there on You Tube." (Matching video clips played.)
Next there's an interview with David Friedman from the Anti-Defamation League. Ly notes the ADL considers the American Renaissance a hate group. Then American Renaissance leader Jared Taylor is interviewd by Ly. Taylor talks about American Renaissance videos being posted on You Tube.
Ly gives cover to You Tube: "You Tube prohibits hate speech which contains slurs or malicious stereotypes. But with millions of videos, the website counts on its viewers to do most of the policing."
Back to Gustavo Torres and two views of a screen grab of a comment on FR that focuses on the phrases 'huge powderkeg' and 'juggling matches' (timestamped 02/24/06 1:27 (timezone unseen) that sets up this insinuation that FR was behind the attempted torching of a day labor center:
Sherry Ly: "The attacks come in e-mails and blogs, but recently the threats became more than words for Gustavo Torres when someone tried to burn down Casa's worker center in Gaithersburg."
Gustavo Torres: "It was a hate crime."
Sherry Ly: "The center's still standing, but the accelerant left a stain on the ground--a reminder of the threat that still exists."
Gustavo Torres: "We are going to take any, you know, security measure. We are, as I mentioned before, are working with the police to ensure that those kind of different situations again we immediately report to them."
Sherry Ly: "The FBI and police can make arrests, but modern day messengers of hate know they can reach millions over the Internet. Shut down one website another one pops up. In this fight only people can stop hate from spreading. Sherry Ly, Fox5 News."
The report closes out with screen shots including a photo of a tattoed racist with swastika tattoos on his shoulders and 'Hitler' tattooed in large letters across his chest.
Anchor Brian Bolter: "You Tube says alert them to any video and they will take it down. For more information about how you can fight hate go to MyFoxDc.com, click on 'Seen on TV'."
BTW, the reporter's last name is pronounced 'Lee'.
Forgive me if I pry, but are you a student, a teacher/professor? What gives? No freedom of speech?
Interesting how a radical, illegal alien advocate, whose livelihood is funded by Maryland taxpayer dollars, would turn the public outcry against his own threatened criminal behavior (threatening to stalk the children of his political enemies) into a "Hate Attack" against him.
And Fox5News bought his BS, hook, line and sinker. Fox5 News. Not ready for primetime.
How stupid can Fox5 "invesitgative reporters" be? (Oh, my! Was calling the reporters stupid a hateful comment?)
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A year-and-a-half ago, Gustavo Torres made a well publicized statement, threatening to stalk not just the Minuteman members, but also their children:
‘‘We are going to target them in a specific way,” said Executive Director Gustavo Torres. Casa representatives will go out with cameras and video cameras to record the Minutemen, but that will only be the first step, he said.
‘‘Then we are going to picket their houses, and the schools of their kids, and go to their work,” Torres said.
And now, the Fox5 crack investigative team tries to blame a vandalism at a day labor site on FR, because Freepers said (a year-and-a-half ago) that they would defend their kids against child stalkers?!
As I said earlier, how stupid can Fox5 reporters be?
Is it time, yet, for a Freeper class action suit?
you can blame bill orielly for this one
I really must agree. There is a great deal of resentment in the post, yes, but, on the other hand, the acts perpetrated by these people were so heinous, comparatively, that I can understand the venom. It is not entirely unearned.
ANY parent, who could raise, not one, but 2 children who could force 4 young people to kneel in a schoolyard and shoot them point blank in the head, has a SERIOUS lack of parenting skills——and probably deserves any venom they receive——PARTICULARLY, if the writer believed the murders would never have happened if this “family” had never been allowed into the country.
I don't think the reporter was stupid. This was either a deliberate shot for ideological reasons or the reporter knowingly omitted the provocation of Torres and thought we would not find it and call her on it. She can't have missed the thread article. It was a short thread.
actually HuffPo is the most vile, treacherous and threatening site on the internet....heck, they even beat al jazeera with the volume of anti american rants
Well, it looks like his/her butt is smokin', as the poster is now banned.
There is no might to it, but the challenge would be in proving damage or loss. It boggles the mind that these people who are breaking our laws by being here are not only, not arrested and sent back, but are portrayed as victims themselves. I saw no veiled threats or otherwise. All I saw was an American citizen stating quite clearly that he/she would not tolerate any of the nonsense. The more than veiled threat came from this immigrant advocate in suggesting some activism at the children of these parent’s school. We know what he meant and we know why he said it, and it was for no other reason than to intimidate, frighten and ultimately silence those who want our laws enforced. If Fox 5 was really interested in getting at the heart of hate they might research how many US Citizens are murdered by illegals each year in one way or another. They might ask the loved one’s of the young people who were put against a wall and executed if they thought those illegals murdered those kids out of love.
I agree absolutely! Wonderful explanation.
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