Posted on 08/16/2007 6:15:38 PM PDT by bnelson44
Rudy Giuliani got good news earlier this week from a CBS poll that most people have learned to mistrust -- for good reason -- but Rasmussen may provide some corroboration today. According to the normally reliable pollster, Rudy has his first significant lead in head-to-head polling against Hillary Clinton, and the crosstabs show some surprising depth (via Instapundit):
After being virtually tied with Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for several months, Republican contender Rudy Giuliani now leads Clinton up 47% to 40% in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
In the match-up of the frontrunners, this result marks a significant shift. For the last three months the two frontrunners have never been further apart than three percentage points. Last month, Giuliani and Clinton were separated by just a single point.
Senator Clinton fares modestly better against former Senator Fred Thompson. Clinton now has a three point edge over him, 46% to 43%. All four previous Clinton-Thomas have also been toss-ups.
It's significant that neither top 50% in the poll. Eight percent insist on voting for another candidate, even when the question gets posed as a two-choice affair. Five percent are unsure. We'll come back to them in a moment.
Rudy has some surprising strength in the demographics, especially women. While pundits believe that Hillary would motivate women to flock to her banner, Giuliani actually edges Hillary 44%-42% in this poll -- within the margin of error, to be sure, but much closer than most would imagine. Giuliani has a majority of those between 30-39 years of age (54-36) while Hillary has a slimmer majority in the 40-49 range (50-44). Despite Democratic claims on the youth vote, Hillary only gets a single percentage point lead on Rudy on the 18-29 demo (38-37), and Giuliani has significant leads among those 50 and older.
Otherwise, the only other surprise among the demographics are black voters. Hillary has a lead on Giuliani there, but Rasmussen shows the split 48-41 Hillary. I'd guess this to be a typo. The "Others" category is split 55-11 for Hillary, and I'd wager that they have the two turned around. Even so, only getting 55% of the black vote in a two-way race (18% unsure) looks like a huge problem for the Democrats.
As to those who are unsure, the most significant demographics for the undecided are those that favor Giuliani. That means that we could expect them to break more towards Rudy than Hillary when push comes to shove. All in all, this seems like the kind of boost that Rudy can use to make the case that he provides the best chance for Republicans to beat Hillary next November. John Podhoretz should be dancing over at The Corner with this news.
You make a lot of good points.
interesting...
Jim, This thread needs your TLC, it’s almost like early April again.
I'm sorry.
But you're defending Hilliary in a run against Rudy.
Which is worse?
Be obtuse, I couldn’t care less.
I suggest you pick a conservative candidate to support and get off this liberal kick you’re on. Rooty and Hillary come from the same liberal mold.
Pardon me while I check the Meter for “the Post of the Day”
1. Will cut taxes.
2. Will reduce the size of the Federal government.
3. Is rock solid on terrorism and foreign policy.
4. Has pledged to put strict constructionists on the Supreme Court.
5. Is fearless in confronting the Liberal media.
6. Is committed to building the wall and an electronic border for Mexico and forcing all illegals to be identified.
7. Is undeniably the best law and order guy out there.
and
8. Has the balls to pound on Congress and anyone else necessary to get his way.
He is almost uniformly hated here. The reasons are two fold--he is not pro-life enough and he does not despise homosexuals.
Intolerance of differences with ad hominem attacks seems to be the hallmarks of Giuliani detractors. They even have a special place to store their invictive--top of this page "Giuliani Truth File." Your post will not go there.
9. is an abortionist pig.
10. Thinks guns are evil and wants them grabbed.
Talk is cheap. I will rely on record.
My point is that Hilliary must be defeated and we should vote for her opposition, period.
Somehow that makes me a Rudy Booster. But what does that make conservatives who will not vote against Hilliary in the General?
What possible difference would it mean to the dead?
I’ll make you a deal-—I vote for Fred in the Primary, you vote against Hilliary in the general.
“Intolerance of differences with ad hominem attacks seems to be the hallmarks of Giuliani detractors.”
Those attacks are so lame and superficial that I believe there are shills here among the Freepers from the Democrats who are trying to pound that BS over and over.
Just the same way that Republican money has found its way to Nader and Sharpton over the years...
Let’s be real. The Dims want the Republicans divided at all cost. It was Perot who elected Clinton.
If you want a more authoritarian, bullying, more intrusive, more controlling, all-powerful, ‘big government knows best’, 'Big Brother' type of government,,,,,
headed by a pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-litigation, gun-grabbing, gay-rights crusading, condescending, arrogant, and narcissistic LIBERAL, New York ‘pit bull’ lawyer who believes in sanctuary cities, global warming, and using our tax money for Federally-funded abortions,,,,
who worked in the Bobby Kennedy campaign, voted for George McGovern, who first ran for mayor as a candidate of the LIBERAL PARTY, who as mayor publicly distanced himself from Ronald Reagan, who vocally supported and proudly endorsed a far-left, liberal, big-government, socialist, democrat like Mario Cuomo over the Republican candidate for governor (because the Republican wanted to cut taxes ‘too much’),,,,
who was SO LIBERAL that he wasn’t even invited to the Republican Convention in ’96--after refusing to endorse (until the last minute) the Republican candidate opposing Clinton,,,,
and a cousin-marrying, Clinton-apologist--whose personal life is an absolute TRAIN WRECK (and whose public cheating on his wife almost makes Bill Clinton look like a decent family man and loving husband--if that is even possible),,,,
a LIBERAL like Rudy JulieAnnie is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!!!
You don't have to kill yourself. There's plenty of time to do that after you die of old age.
He is not hated. He is simply rejected as a reasonable candidate due to his liberal record and position on issues.
The reasons are two fold--he is not pro-life enough and he does not despise homosexuals.
Don't stop there. How about his gun-grabbing days, his positions on freedom, his history of appointing corrupt cronies to office, his authoritarian approach to governance, etc., etc., etc.
Intolerance of differences with ad hominem attacks seems to be the hallmarks of Giuliani detractors. They even have a special place to store their invictive--top of this page "Giuliani Truth File." Your post will not go there.
Nothing like insulting freepers while trying shilling for a liberal. Carry on!
You’re so funny when you’re casually dismissing abortion victims for political gain.
Good luck with that.
Not too smart for one.
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