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To: org.whodat

“Congressman penny had a link to an FBI study of 4000+ per year. You can check his .gov link”

Well, the poster didn’t cite ANYTHING and I can’t find a website for Tim Penny. He’s not in office anymore.

J.D. Hayworth said, “Numbers are very hard to come by, but a conservative estimate of the number of Americans killed by illegal aliens since 9/11 is higher than the number of Americans killed in Iraq and probably higher than the number of Americans killed on 9/11 itself. It may be slow-motion nightmare, but it is a nightmare nonetheless.”

I really hate to a see number like that posted without a direct link or reference to where it came from. Otherwise, how can we judge the credibility of the source or the poster?

It sounds plausible so that is why it has generated so many responses. But, that’s 11 deaths a day. Was that number generated indirectly or through actual count? Who did it? A number like that would be very useful in the debate if is real. Its not very useful if you can’t source it.

It’s not only the ‘choir’ that comes here. I like to think of us the objective people who use evidence and reason to support our arguments.


33 posted on 08/15/2007 9:02:07 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Belasarius

Start here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623174/posts
Biting the Hand that Feeds You
The Office of Congressman Steve King

“What would that May 1st look like without illegal immigration? There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth that day by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime.”


35 posted on 08/15/2007 9:39:00 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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